Barstooler

**monutdfc** · 03/08/2005, 9:01 AM

Great word! Makes me laugh the way people use it as an ordinary everyday noun on foot.ie and know exactly what it means (whichever side of the debate they're on), without it ever having been taught in school or being in any dictionary.
Does it exist outside of the foot.ie lexicon? (I'm sure it was in use on Johnny Ward's old site, but apart from that...?)
Will there be a rush of posters now to claim to have coined the phrase?

**Peadar** · 03/08/2005, 9:10 AM

Originally Posted by monutdfc

Does it exist outside of the foot.ie lexicon?

I suppose it's the modern day, Hurler on the ditch, in some respects.
It didn't originate on Irish football forums though, surely?

**monutdfc** · 03/08/2005, 9:11 AM

Just remembered the other phrase that made me laugh: "Andy Gray's Barstool Army"

**Sheridan** · 03/08/2005, 9:12 AM

I first encountered it on JW's forum circa 2001. The contemporary "Premiersh1t" appears to have fallen into disuse.

**Cosmo** · 03/08/2005, 9:12 AM

Eh I went up for a prematch pint in dalyer before Rovers V Derry (paid in and all) but ended up watching the match from the comfort of my bar stool in the bar in dalyer on setanta.

Would that classify me as a barstooler I wonder

**Peadar** · 03/08/2005, 9:16 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Would that classify me as a barstooler I wonder

No, because your own team weren't playing.

**A face** · 03/08/2005, 9:19 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Would that classify me as a barstooler I wonder

Originally Posted by Peadar

No, because your own team weren't playing.

I dunno ... technically it is though ain't it !!!

**Peadar** · 03/08/2005, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by A face

technically it is though ain't it !!!

Have we technically defined the term?

I guess it's someone who is in a position to attend a game but choses to watch it or a game in another league, on TV.
That's still very broad though.

**pete** · 03/08/2005, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Eh I went up for a prematch pint in dalyer before Rovers V Derry (paid in and all) but ended up watching the match from the comfort of my bar stool in the bar in dalyer on setanta.

I don't know if you're a barstooler but its still fairly sad.

**A face** · 03/08/2005, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

That's still very broad though.

Agreed .... which bar was it anyway Cosmo ?? .... might help us define it more !!

**Cosmo** · 03/08/2005, 10:39 AM

'I don't know if you're a barstooler but its still fairly sad.'

Is it that sad though? A choice of derrys drum going through my head or watching the match on a quality big screen over a couple of pints, given the chance I'd make the same choice

!!

**pete** · 03/08/2005, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Is it that sad though? A choice of derrys drum going through my head or watching the match on a quality big screen over a couple of pints, given the chance I'd make the same choice

!!

Definitely a barstooler.
Do you also sit in the bar in United Park watching the game?

**Cosmo** · 03/08/2005, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by pete

Definitely a barstooler.
Do you also sit in the bar in United Park watching the game?

It's actually an alright view from the bar in United Park (a regular enough drogs poster on here watches the whole match from there -is he a 'barstooler'

?) - might watch a few minutes of the 2nd half from up there if i dont finish my half time pint quick enough though

.

I'd say theres alot of versions what a bar stooler is though tbh

**Eire06** · 03/08/2005, 11:02 AM

BarStooler IMO is someone who just goes to the pub to watch games and never goes to the actual stadiums to watch them and claims to be a true and true fan

**dcfcsteve** · 03/08/2005, 11:07 AM

Never thought of it before, but Barstooler is a superb word. Just like 'banjo player', it opens up a world of meaning that only those familiar with the word can comprehend.

Here's a go at defining it :

Barstooler : Noun (bar' stool- er)

Sports
1) A person who claims to be a passionate follower of a sports team, even though their active support is confined solely to the TV screen of a public house or bar.
2) A variation on the theme of 'armchair supporter'.
3) Commonly found throughout Ireland, usually associated with certain English and Scottish teams, and almost always in possession of a Sky viewing card.

Barstooling : Verb (bar' stool-een)

1) Partaking in the activity of following your favourite sports team solely from the confines of a pub.

**OneRedArmy** · 03/08/2005, 11:07 AM

Barstooler: def. an Irishman or women who identifies themselves as a football fan but watches exclusively foreign league football and Irish international matches almost, exclusively on television.

See also "ole ole brigade" and "fair weather fan".

**Cosmo** · 03/08/2005, 11:11 AM

'See also "ole ole brigade" and "fair weather fan".'

Thats the majority of Lansdowne so

**BohDiddley** · 03/08/2005, 11:57 AM

Needs an update, in my view. 'Barstooler' implies going down the local to watch it on Sky, whereas most of the people we mean to label are actually sitting at home, having paid subscriptions and PPV to Murdoch and English clubs. Just like people in Japan and China ...
Is there a better term?

**Sheridan** · 03/08/2005, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Needs an update, in my view. 'Barstooler' implies going down the local to watch it on Sky, whereas most of the people we mean to label are actually sitting at home, having paid subscriptions and PPV to Murdoch and English clubs. Just like people in Japan and China ...
Is there a better term?

"Gullible braindead f*ckmuppet" works for me.