FAI Junior Cup 2005/06

**Nemesis** · 15/02/2006, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by OscarBravo

No they're not. Won't be going any further than the quarters

You could be right but you could be very wrong also.

**Nemesis** · 15/02/2006, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by mossy

Of course they are worth a punt at 16/1
Who decides these odds anyway ?
Killester at 3/1 cause they beat the Port (at home where they are worst) and beat themselves at any rate !!!
UL are limited in areas but who isn't. They play direct Football but who doesn't. Castlebar Celtic should be longer odds because when they get on a big pitch against a good football team then they will be beaten. At home they are tough and lump the high balls in. - The Port were the complete opposite play football and travel well.
So UL worth a �20. Athrenry were humbled by Manulla remember who are average at best.

UL play a direct game at home but they have two capable midfield players through which alot of play is directed. In other words they are very capable of changing how they play.

**Nemesis** · 15/02/2006, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by Athenryboy

Athenry were far from humbled by manulla, only lost in connaught cup and hammered Ballyheane v easily. Its hard understand those odds that ladbrokes have when Athenry beat Salthill & ballyheane 1-4 away , im sure theres money to be made on a few bets! theres a few interesting ties coming up so!

Anyone at the Ballyheane game could see that the limerick lads played well below par and still totally dominated the game. I would think the game against Athenry is fairly balanced and should be a good game to watch, provided a few refs with some moral backbone are introduced and not those three amigoes they had the last day. A few home decisions is something to be expected but to witness the events of last Sunday was nothing short of a disgrace and an insult to anyone watching the game. Well done lads if you read this you did your league proud.

**C.T.F.C** · 15/02/2006, 3:18 PM

Whats the story with Neilstown Rangers. Nobody seems to rate their chances against Castlebar! Cup football and all that???

**Athenryboy** · 15/02/2006, 3:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Anyone at the Ballyheane game could see that the limerick lads played well below par and still totally dominated the game. I would think the game against Athenry is fairly balanced and should be a good game to watch, provided a few refs with some moral backbone are introduced and not those three amigoes they had the last day. A few home decisions is something to be expected but to witness the events of last Sunday was nothing short of a disgrace and an insult to anyone watching the game. Well done lads if you read this you did your league proud.

Yea hopefully there are good officials for the next match , itll be a good match with a big crowd and a few beers after.
I have to say our away game experiences with local refs are very questionable, some shocking decisions, but there isnt much you can do about it.

**UL Boys** · 15/02/2006, 3:34 PM

ya we are the same but sure we will have a few beers ..There is alot of us going up on sat night what is the night life like up there..

**The Don** · 15/02/2006, 3:38 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Anyone at the Ballyheane game could see that the limerick lads played well below par and still totally dominated the game. I would think the game against Athenry is fairly balanced and should be a good game to watch, provided a few refs with some moral backbone are introduced and not those three amigoes they had the last day. A few home decisions is something to be expected but to witness the events of last Sunday was nothing short of a disgrace and an insult to anyone watching the game. Well done lads if you read this you did your league proud.

Apart from the penalty decision what other decision did the ref get wrong in the game?. I khow paper doesnt refuse ink but please back up comments like the above with some examples at least.

**Athenryboy** · 15/02/2006, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by UL Boys

ya we are the same but sure we will have a few beers ..There is alot of us going up on sat night what is the night life like up there..

Saturday night is usually quite good,big crowds around. The lively pubs on a saturday night are Dans Bar, The Hop Inn(Great Guinness!), Dowlings & Iggys Bar. Nightclub usually packed too, all based around the centre of the town so no problem finding them lads.

**UL Boys** · 15/02/2006, 3:51 PM

Sound man...We might see you for a pint up there..

**soccerc** · 15/02/2006, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by C.T.F.C

Whats the story with Neilstown Rangers. Nobody seems to rate their chances against Castlebar! Cup football and all that???

Thats good and say nothing to nobody - don't want the odds dropping from14/1.

Seriously, nobody will or should underestimate Neilstown Rangers who play good stylish football.

**renovater** · 15/02/2006, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Athenryboy

Athenry were far from humbled by manulla, only lost in connaught cup and hammered Ballyheane v easily. Its hard understand those odds that ladbrokes have when Athenry beat Salthill & ballyheane 1-4 away , im sure theres money to be made on a few bets! theres a few interesting ties coming up so!

Dont get carried away because you bet Ballyheane. you bet aside who at the time were just going though the motions.BALLYHEANE WOULD TAKE MANUALLA FOR STARTERS AND HAVE YOU FOR LUNCH on a good day.
Cup is the cup its all on the day.Anyway who ever heard of football played in athenry sure ya only around the last wet weekend.
were the tradidtion.
when I play football in galway once you left the city all you heard about was the GAA. I am sure around the fields of Anthenry hasn't changed that much.

**renovater** · 15/02/2006, 6:39 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Anyone at the Ballyheane game could see that the limerick lads played well below par and still totally dominated the game. I would think the game against Athenry is fairly balanced and should be a good game to watch, provided a few refs with some moral backbone are introduced and not those three amigoes they had the last day. A few home decisions is something to be expected but to witness the events of last Sunday was nothing short of a disgrace and an insult to anyone watching the game. Well done lads if you read this you did your league proud.

I don't offen have alot to say about Mayo Refs but lets get of the pot Home Decisions as you called it were made by Rosscommon Refs
Anyway I believe the ref got the decission against R.Coyne about right. its easy for you and I on the side line to think differantyou may some day you might take up the 12th man in black you may think twice.

**renovater** · 15/02/2006, 6:42 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

Thats good and say nothing to nobody - don't want the odds dropping from14/1.

Seriously, nobody will or should underestimate Neilstown Rangers who play good stylish football.

I say and keep saying Nielstown won't be far away my favourites.

**Dr Mad** · 15/02/2006, 7:23 PM

Have to disagree after watching Neilstown struggle and lose against a poor Raheny team (AUL Premier B) last Sunday, totally undisciplined and question over fitness as well. 2 Players sent off, 1 a straight red for a horrible stupid cowards challenge and the other a twit getting 2 separate yellows for trying to punch balls into the net!! They will not make it out of Premier B never mind progress in the FAI Junior, theyre about the 4th best team in Clondalkin for gods sake!

**soccerc** · 15/02/2006, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Mad

They will not make it out of Premier B never mind progress in the FAI Junior, theyre about the 4th best team in Clondalkin for gods sake!

??? I'd be interested in seeing what three junior Clondalkin sides you put ahead of them.

**Dr Mad** · 15/02/2006, 8:41 PM

Well how about you reply to my earlier question about your Portmarnock opinions and then I'll happily name the better teams in Clondalkin (as if you dont know them) ....

**soccerc** · 15/02/2006, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Mad

Well how about you reply to my earlier question about your Portmarnock opinions and then I'll happily name the better teams in Clondalkin (as if you dont know them) ....

Sorry, i didn't see your reply. For example Barry Flynn and Keith Bruen moaning and bullying their way thru games. Constantly on the ref's case. Unable to accept decisons going against them.......need I go on?

Oh, St Francis are not my beloved.

Finally, there are not three better junior sides in Clondalkin than Neilstown Rangers

**Dr Mad** · 15/02/2006, 9:16 PM

Soccerc - you will have to try harder than that. Keith Bruen NEVER speaks to referees, never has done, just not his style, anyone that knows him over the years will verify that. And Barry Flynn's record speaks for itself, ask Gerry Smith what he thinks of him and why he's begging him to come out of retirement and play for the Junior International Team for another season. Or ask any of the midfielders he's played against around the country this season, including many 10-15 years younger than him.

So have you any more examples? And what games have you seen to base your opinion on? Seems like a lazy opinion to me.

**soccerc** · 15/02/2006, 9:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Mad

Soccerc - you will have to try harder than that. Keith Bruen NEVER speaks to referees, never has done, just not his style, anyone that knows him over the years will verify that. And Barry Flynn's record speaks for itself, ask Gerry Smith what he thinks of him and why he's begging him to come out of retirement and play for the Junior International Team for another season. Or ask any of the midfielders he's played against around the country this season, including many 10-15 years younger than him.

So have you any more examples? And what games have you seen to base your opinion on? Seems like a lazy opinion to me.

I have never doubted their talent just the manner in which they now present it. Are you denying that Flynn doesn't try to intimidate refs? and moans like hell at every decison? Keith is a massive player for Ports but again tell me honestly that he doesn't constantly niggle players on and off the ball, not always within the rules of sportmanship - gamemanship possibly! I have seen Ports on many many occasions over the past 10/12 years on which to base my opinion and that's all it is an opinion. That doesn't take into account others who are prone to leaving the boot in. Pity more couldn't be as gracious as Dougie Dolan!

Now tell me the three junior sides who in your opinion that are better then Neilstown?

**Dr Mad** · 15/02/2006, 9:48 PM

Here's what you said ....

"Portmarnock are living on past glories and haven't impressed me this term. Some senior players should call time and hang up their boots".

You still haven't explained this - just given some bizarre opinions about 2 players that most Clubs in Dublin would (still) welcome with open arms. Bruen? never a niggler or a wind-up merchant, on or off the ball. Flynn? no more or no less a whinger than any other good competitive midfielder.

By past glories do you mean winning Premier A and the Leinster Junior Cup last Season? Or making it to the last 8 this Season? A lot of Clubs with be very happy with that kind of "past" glory.

And for the record I would rate Newlands Celtic, Oatfield and Moyle Park as better teams than Neilstown (Never said Junior Teams) in Clondalkin right now. Seen them all in action this season and would fancy any of them to beat Neilstown.