2023 Season Tickets

**EatYerGreens** · 07/12/2022, 3:18 PM

Originally Posted by culloty82

Sean O'Keeffe, speaking in his Kerry FC capacity rather than as KDL chairman, states that limited capacity was the reasoning behind the main stand pricing (paywall):

https://www.independent.ie/regionals...-42198675.html

The flaw with that argument, however, is that 500 seats at "matching" rates would seem to have had a realistic prospect of selling out, given the interest in the licence announcement, whereas now they'll be doing well to sell half by February, making them more dependent on match-day receipts.

Capacity is only limited if demand exceeds it greatly. If only 300 people want to access a 500 capacity stand, then the limitation is largely academic.

It's a ballsy/risky approach by Kerry to go down the 'rarity value' pricing model for something that hasn't been on sale before, and therefore the demand for which is purely just conjecture. Especially when pricing directly impacts demand.

**sbgawa** · 07/12/2022, 3:27 PM

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Capacity is only limited if demand exceeds it greatly. If only 300 people want to access a 500 capacity stand, then the limitation is largely academic.

It's a ballsy/risky approach by Kerry to go down the 'rarity value' pricing model for something that hasn't been on sale before, and therefore the demand for which is purely just conjecture. Especially when pricing directly impacts demand.

Does it though ?
Obviously it does to a point but if you are living in Kerry and want to support a Kerry team to the extreme point of being a season ticket holder (which lets be honest in LOI terms is a micro micro micro subset of Irish humanity) will the difference between 200 and 275 stop you...

Rovers season tickets went up from 180 early bird last year to 220 for the cheapest tickets (no early bird this year ) and 300+ for a reserved seats and sales are way up apparantly. Logic doesnt come into it People that buy season tickets are mad im telling you MAAAAAAAADDD

**culloty82** · 07/12/2022, 3:40 PM

Well as far as the website shows, 95 stand tickets have been sold thus far - that's not necessarily to say anymore would be gone by now at the lower rate, would be interesting to know how popular the Terrace is proving by comparison, but am personally inclined to agree with EatYerGreens.

**Longfordian** · 07/12/2022, 4:06 PM

It could make a difference if you're buying them as a present for someone. There are a lot of season tickets given as Christmas presents. Why you'd be willing to spend that much on someone who you clearly wish harm and mental anguish on I don't know but they're sold anyway.

**EatYerGreens** · 07/12/2022, 4:26 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Does it though ?
Obviously it does to a point but if you are living in Kerry and want to support a Kerry team to the extreme point of being a season ticket holder (which lets be honest in LOI terms is a micro micro micro subset of Irish humanity) will the difference between 200 and 275 stop you...

Rovers season tickets went up from 180 early bird last year to 220 for the cheapest tickets (no early bird this year ) and 300+ for a reserved seats and sales are way up apparantly. Logic doesnt come into it People that buy season tickets are mad im telling you MAAAAAAAADDD

It is both a long and a well-established principle of economics that pricing and demand are inter-related. It's also basic feckin' common sense.

To the point that I see no sense in trying to engage with someone who believes it doesn't, because anecdotally they think there might just be a few mad eejits in Kerry prepared to drop a couple of grand on a seat at Mounthawk Park

**DeLorean** · 07/12/2022, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by culloty82

Well as far as the website shows, 95 stand tickets have been sold thus far - that's not necessarily to say anymore would be gone by now at the lower rate, would be interesting to know how popular the Terrace is proving by comparison, but am personally inclined to agree with EatYerGreens.

You sure that's not actually 45? O'Keeffe confirmed that 50 seats are being kept for 'VIP's'. I assume they're the block of greys in the middle.

**ForzaForth** · 07/12/2022, 6:05 PM

Earlybird price for Wexford season tickets, covering both men's and women's teams, is €130.

**Asterix** · 07/12/2022, 6:30 PM

Rovers have sold 2750 so far

**outspoken** · 07/12/2022, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by ForzaForth

Earlybird price for Wexford season tickets, covering both men's and women's teams, is €130.

Outrageous value

**sbgawa** · 07/12/2022, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

It is both a long and a well-established principle of economics that pricing and demand are inter-related. It's also basic feckin' common sense.

To the point that I see no sense in trying to engage with someone who believes it doesn't, because anecdotally they think there might just be a few mad eejits in Kerry prepared to drop a couple of grand on a seat at Mounthawk Park

As someone who spent best part of 30 years buying season tickets with one title and no cups while playing home matches in tolka, Richmond, dalymount , morten stadium ....cork I'm definitely in the MAD segment so I wouldn't talk to me either

I spend enough time talking to myself and most of the time disagree with myself as well

**CraftyToePoke** · 07/12/2022, 9:04 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

You sure that's not actually 45? O'Keeffe confirmed that 50 seats are being kept for 'VIP's'. I assume they're the block of greys in the middle.

Massaging the numbers there to make a bad day worse if true. Nice spot. Creating LOI accountancy begins early in Kerrys LOI adventure ha !

**legendz** · 08/12/2022, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by culloty82

Released prices of standing tickets now, but can't see this being the end of the matter!

Going by the pricing, the matchday ticket prices will be 20 seating and 15 standing at least.

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

Bit hopeful from our neighbours there & it's good to see they have a blunder in them, which this is. They were worryingly note perfect up to this.

A blunder for sure. First engagement with the supporters really doesn't bode well. First impressions and all that!
An amateur team will be doing well to challenge 8th and 9th. Pricing should be in line with that. If preseason games are being touted as value for money, Billy will have to use his contacts to get Shamrock Rovers.

**EalingGreen** · 08/12/2022, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

It is both a long and a well-established principle of economics that pricing and demand are inter-related. It's also basic feckin' common sense.

As a general principle, that is quite correct. But with football ST's, there are other influencing factors, beyond the absolute of eg "1,500 places supply versus 1,000 fans demand".

Namely that some people will pay up not simply to guarantee admission to a game, but to reserve a particular seat i.e. good view/alongside their mates or family/not able to stand etc. Meaning that they''ll still purchase a ST, tying them to every game at a high price, even though they know there will likely still be tickets available on the day when games don't sell out. Similarly, buying a ST saves the hassle of buying on a match-by-match basis, whilst also offering priority for any sell-out matches in the Cup, or play-offs etc.

Another factor is that if demand drops after the initial novelty fades, and/or the team is struggling on the pitch, the club can always drop prices or make special offers and promotions etc, to help maintain demand. But if they start off low, then fans will see low prices as standard, making it harder for the club subsequntly to raise prices (to allow for inflation or expansion etc), even should demand still be holding up generally.

As against all that, it will be interesting to see what non-ST prices they charge. For a ST should always offer a decent discount over match-by-match purchases, not least because you want to get money in early, and reward loyalty etc, while not every ST Holder can guarantee to attend every game.

I'd expect m-b-m prices will likely be sky high, too.

**culloty82** · 09/12/2022, 11:27 AM

Bohs:

**Dermobohs** · 09/12/2022, 12:59 PM

Be interested to see the take up on des kelly tickets, no cover there at all, I feel they’re overpriced myself, but with the Jodi
almost certainly sold out, it’s good to have that many extra spaces.

**placid casual** · 09/12/2022, 4:06 PM

Eh, silly question maybe... But where are the away fans supposed to go?

**RealJohn91** · 09/12/2022, 4:09 PM

There's a 450 seater temporary stand going where the connaught stand used to be next season.

**EatYerGreens** · 10/12/2022, 5:11 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

Eh, silly question maybe... But where are the away fans supposed to go?

"To hell, or (the) Connaught (Stand)"

**David BOHie** · 10/12/2022, 8:48 PM

Originally Posted by RealJohn91

There's a 450 seater temporary stand going where the connaught stand used to be next season.

That 450 stand actually adds about 1,000 to the capacity funnily enough. The Des Kelly can fit something like 1,100 but that was limited to 700 last year due to segregation and this was limited even more for Rovers games, about 350. Moving the away fans to the new Connaught Street stand means we can use the full 1,100 for all games and the away fans will get the whole of a new 450 stand.
Taking the capacity from
Jodi: 2,750
DK: 350-700 depending on the game
Total: 3,100 - 3450

to
Jodi: 2,750
DK: 1,100
Connaught: 450
Total: 4,300.

Having a 4 handle at a big derby game is a lot more respectable than a 3 handle. Dalyer obviously needs a major refurbishment but this will ease a lot of capacity issues in the short term.