Possibly in top two or three, but I'd highly doubt beyond that.Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly
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They are all capable of being loose with the truth, it was just strange to hear someone throw out actual numbers. The average league 2 salary is around £1500 with some much higher so Duffer's numbers do seem somewhat feasible
League Two wages are higher than most LOI wages. I recently listened to a podcast which Jack Byrne was on and during it he stated that 1k a week would be considered ‘a good wage’ for an experienced LOI player at one of the top 2 or 3 clubs. Obviously the very top players in the league like himself would actually be on a bit more than that again but to say that 1200 to 1400 a week is the going rate for the top 5 clubs is way wide of the mark
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As Nigel says top 3 at best
Id say that is probably what he meant ...as in the cost of players who would make a difference for him as opposed to the ones he can now afford.
There isnt a chance the average senior pro is on 1200+ per week.
Even a cursory glance at the accounts of any club would say that
What a team can afford & what they will spend is very rarely the same thing
Sure but this is clearly a case of Duff trying to temper expectations for the upcoming season. Shels probably have fans and possibly board members or other stakeholders who think they should qualify for Europe this season but I think that's probably unrealistic considering they haven't improved their attacking options (that I can see) and didn't exactly score freely last year. Plenty of managers do it, but Duff seems to be exaggerating wages to drive home the point.
He would be about right for some players I would think. Adam O’Reilly was offered £1100 a week by a club in Scotland and all of our clubs looking for him were able to beat that. He is only one example and would possibly be at higher end of pay scale (although definitely not the highest) but with the competition for his signature you can assume he is probably on a decent bit more than this particular Scottish offer.
As I said it was from a list on twitter which would not copy. Yes wingers are an attacking option but mostly used to feed attacker who does the scoring. High scoring wingers don't normally exist.How do you define attackers? I'd always include wingers as attacking options myself. I think the squad is only lacking in defenders currently. From the preseason games I've seen we'll play 3 up front with a decent amount of options from McDaid, Connolly, Twardek, Coote, Williams, Afolabi, Akintinde & Okosun. Could argue we need another out and out striker but there is a need for them all through the league.
Also they have at least 4 defenders in Kirk, Burke, Horton and Byrne
Do you really think a squad of 19 will be enough? I don't think so, and if one of the front 3 gets injured do you play 2 up top or just fill the gap with a someone who is not a natural attacker. By the way I wasn't criticing the quality it was purely the strength in depth from a small squad. I still believe Bohs need 4 more proven players to complete the squad.
Some of the disparity in figures may be from gross v net. Club cares about overall cost, player cares about what they get in their hand. That said even with that some of the quoted figures seem very high.
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So I think Bohs need to add at least 2 experienced defenders. Strikers, midfielders, attackers and wingers I think they are covered well. Just as a striker option there is Afolabi, Williams and Okosun. Sure they are all a bit unknown to a degree but they all offer something different. I actually think if Okosun gets a run he could be the best of the lot. If worst came to worst and all 3 of them were injured/unavailable Akintunde or McDaid would be deployed there. First front 3 of the season I expect to be Akintunde, Afolabi and Connolly. That would leave McDaid, Williams, Coote and Okosun on the bench and doesn't include Twardek who I expect to be the starting RB. Midfield is a similar story. Probably looking at Bucko, McManus & Clarke starting with McDonnell and Flores on the bench with Coote being able to play there in case of injury.
19 players isn't enough but 23 is too many imo. As it stands there are already good LOI players not going to make the match day squad for Bohs and they need to sign more defenders. Too many players not getting a game and you risk one of them upsetting the apple cart and throwing toys out of the pram.
PS. Didn't think it was a criticism just didn't think you realised the depth in every area for Bohs excluding defence. Which is fair some players were kept on and not announced other were let go and not announced so unless you went to preseason games you wouldn't know who's there and who's not.
23 isnt a lot imo , in any group of 23 players you would be lucky if you didnt have 3 or 4 at any time carrying knocks that required a rest (not even long term injuries as such) and you have 6 or 7 on the bench so a lot of the time you would have no one missing out on being in the squad.
I think you are under rating Williams btw , he will score plenty of goals for you if he gets a run.
Young lads like Derin Adewale, Jake McCormack, Chris Lotefa and Danny McGrath will probably be in and around the Bohs first team too.
You get 9 subs now no? Plus are able to make 5, definitely makes it more necessary to have a bit of depth if you want to compete for things.
23 isn't a lot when you have multiple competitions. Bohs have 2 serious competitions this year in the league and FAI cup. If we get knocked out of the cup early then there's a lot fewer games to go around and as I said there is already the possibility of good LOI players not even making the bench for Bohs. Then even if there are injuries you're still paying the player to be full time even if they can't play so there's a financial reality to the squad size too. If Bohs had 21 senior pros supplemented by 2-3 u19 players coming up if/when needed that would be ideal imo. Especially when you consider not all signings will work out so you may need to release a player in July and try to bring in one or 2 as well. Best not to go all in on your first throw of the dice.
On Williams I actually think he's a great signing and no doubt he will get game time and goals for us. I just think Okosun has the combination of strength and speed that can be lethal in this league. Similar to Omochere for us last year. Only concern is he's 16 so still on the young side to play week in week out.
Bohs are at the start of a rebuild IMO. Only thing we will realistically compete for is Europe and I think that's the high end of realistic expectations.
As for the subs I must have trauma from Longs stint as manager. If we made 2 subs in a game it was a miracle. So we could have had 80 on the bench and it wouldn't have mattered
I didn't realise the depth although some are very young and inexperienced. However if presented with an opportunity its up to them to grasp it and make their name known.
Doesn’t seem to be much news of incoming players for us. A little concerning, although we’ve a strong starting lineup imo. I think the squad is still light on numbers. Definitely would like us to bring in another 2/3 players at least.
I just meant generally as opposed to Bohs specifically, obviously there were a few players under contract already that needed shifting the the context is a little different there. In any case I think ideal world is a squad of around 23-ish, which to be fair Bohs would probably be looking at had they a normal number of defenders.Bohs are at the start of a rebuild IMO. Only thing we will realistically compete for is Europe and I think that's the high end of realistic expectations.
As for the subs I must have trauma from Longs stint as manager. If we made 2 subs in a game it was a miracle. So we could have had 80 on the bench and it wouldn't have mattered
We make yet another unknown signing in Aaron Walsh who was last with Loughgall. He was with Shels under 17s so thats where Stephen must have come across him first.
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
Loughgall are winning their league. The standard would be less than LOI D1, and if he wasn't getting on for Loughgall he propably won't be much of an addition.
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