2023 Season, Arrivals and Departures

**Shearer** · 11/01/2023, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by Olander

Not sure how it's a strange signing.

What type of players were you expecting Kerry FC to sign in their first season?

They're going to be promoting players from their academy and signing junior players from Kerry, Cork, Limerick, etc... surrounding areas. It seems like a fairly logical signing to me. It appears they'll essentially be an amateur outfit next season.

My expectations were probably a bit higher if I'm honest. They've since dropped.

**da bishop** · 11/01/2023, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by Shearer

My expectations were probably a bit higher if I'm honest. They've since dropped.

Kerry are rightly and obviously doing what they promised ,a largely local squad .If you look at the Treaty model under Tommy Barrett much the same was promised ,however the majority of the Treaty squads are not from the mid-west.,the present squad announced so far 19/20 has only about 4/5 what can be considered local players.

**sulywaterfordfc** · 11/01/2023, 8:42 PM

Waterford confirmed the signing of centre back Giles Philips from Aldershot.

**Shearer** · 11/01/2023, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by da bishop

however the majority of the Treaty squads are not from the mid-west.,the present squad announced so far 19/20 has only about 4/5 what can be considered local players.

I do and don't agree with you. There's been plenty of players from the region at the club since day one that have either not been good enough, been too good or have stayed. Local players is Important but a balance has to be struck also. I don't think we're bereft of local players either.

The facts are:

Of the 19 signed this season there's 6 in total from Limerick, Tipp and Clare which is probably "the locality".
In the off season they have lost a total of 5 players from those same three counties.
There are 5 Limerick lads spread across Galway, Sligo and Derry as well as Ronan Coughlan, Sean McSweeney (both seemingly unattached) and Sam Warde (emigrated). That's without touching on Clare and Tipp.

The fact of the matter is that if you were to replace like for like (i.e. lose one Limerick player and replace him with another) then Treaty would struggle big time as the standard of junior soccer has never been worse, and the few that are good enough won't commit.

I could go on and talk about how only two people from Limerick have played in the Premier League in the last 20 years and how we haven't had a Senior international since Johnny Walsh, but I'd be here all night

**nigel-harps1954** · 12/01/2023, 7:27 AM

Originally Posted by Shearer

I could go on and talk about how only two people from Limerick have played in the Premier League in the last 20 years and how we haven't had a Senior international since Johnny Walsh, but I'd be here all night

Isn't Steve Finnan from Limerick?

**culloty82** · 12/01/2023, 7:29 AM

Originally Posted by Shearer

My expectations were probably a bit higher if I'm honest. They've since dropped.

Yesterday's signing was the only one where you'd question what he'd add to the squad over an existing academy player, the others all made logical sense in terms of either previous LoI experience or current local form.

**Shearer** · 12/01/2023, 7:42 AM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Isn't Steve Finnan from Limerick?

Born in Limerick but moved at a very young age. You'd count him as being from Limerick, but not as a player that Limerick actually produced.

**kksaints** · 12/01/2023, 9:29 AM

We have signed Estonian midfielder Vladislav Kreida on loan from Flora for the season subject to International Clearance. 21 caps but I think some of them might be caps for those domestic only International squads that the Baltic countries select for small competitions between themselves. Interesting that there's a few Estonian players in the league now.

**Glen Of Aherlow** · 12/01/2023, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by kksaints

We have signed Estonian midfielder Vladislav Kreida on loan from Flora for the season subject to International Clearance. 21 caps but I think some of them might be caps for those domestic only International squads that the Baltic countries select for small competitions between themselves. Interesting that there's a few Estonian players in the league now.

The Estonian Adam O'Reilly i believe

**Jack B** · 12/01/2023, 10:28 AM

Sorry to inform fans of other sides that we now have the best midfielder in the league.

**placid casual** · 12/01/2023, 12:36 PM

I would have thought you'd be pleased.
As for being TBMITL, let's just see if that comes to pass eh!

Have pats managed to sign asbestos cotter yet?

**patsdad** · 12/01/2023, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jack B

Sorry to inform fans of other sides that we now have the best midfielder in the league.

Not sure why you say �now�. We�ve had Forrester a few years.

**nigel-harps1954** · 12/01/2023, 5:38 PM

Harps sign American left sided player Ryan Flood from Phoenix Rising in USL Championship. Has worked previously with Dave Rogers at Arizona. Two year contract again, subject to international clearance and work permit.

**outspoken** · 12/01/2023, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Harps sign American left sided player Ryan Flood from Phoenix Rising in USL Championship. Has worked previously with Dave Rogers at Arizona. Two year contract again, subject to international clearance and work permit.

Can't be cheap getting these lads over on two year deals and housing them?

**nigel-harps1954** · 13/01/2023, 1:19 AM

Originally Posted by outspoken

Can't be cheap getting these lads over on two year deals and housing them?

Hell of a lot cheaper than what was spent last year. Rogers budget is half that of the 2022 budget.

**Jack B** · 13/01/2023, 5:52 AM

Didn't anticipate my claim about Krieda being taken semi-seriously. Must admit I've not watched much of the Estonian league but what's the point in signing these lads if you can't kid yourself that they're brilliant before you've even seen them play.

Originally Posted by placid casual

Have pats managed to sign asbestos cotter yet?

He's still cruelly being held hostage apparently.

**placid casual** · 13/01/2023, 7:21 AM

Rumours of Rovers getting their own Estonian but not sure if it's gone through yet.
In regards to cotter I'd heard he'd been asking around one or two LOI clubs but had no takers- I just assumed he'd sign for pats and that would be that. Maybe wages is an issue?

**Longfordian** · 13/01/2023, 7:32 AM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Hell of a lot cheaper than what was spent last year. Rogers budget is half that of the 2022 budget.

But if they're crap you still have to pay them for another year so you're not saving anything. You'd want to have faith in whoever has been looking at them.

**Jack B** · 13/01/2023, 9:44 AM

Originally Posted by placid casual

In regards to cotter I'd heard he'd been asking around one or two LOI clubs but had no takers- I just assumed he'd sign for pats and that would be that. Maybe wages is an issue?

I'm not in the know at all but someone I know that knows someone on the Pats board told me about a month ago that we'd made an offer for him and Rovers were "stalling". Who knows though.