2023 UEFA European Under-17 Championship

**Razors left peg** · 23/05/2023, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Daniel Babb. Played his first two senior games this season. Came through the academy from 15s

Is he Phil's son? UEFA tv said he is.

Super performance today. Some high quality players in that team, and again shows the stupidity of saying they need to be playing abroad to compete

**SkStu** · 23/05/2023, 7:59 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Is he Phil's son? UEFA tv said he is.

Super performance today. Some high quality players in that team, and again shows the stupidity of saying they need to be playing abroad to compete

I looked him up before out of curiosity on the same issue and i dont think he is! I also looked up to see if Phil had any kids and couldnt find any evidence of it...

**ForzaForth** · 23/05/2023, 7:59 PM

RTE commentators said during the Welsh game that he's no relation to Phil.

**CraftyToePoke** · 23/05/2023, 8:13 PM

Probably a very Irish style wind up on a UEFA broadcaster researcher there lads, & why not.

Great win, performance faded second half but saw it out, glad we had that lead cushion though, towards the end.
Some lovely players, and we absolutely can send a competitive home based side to a finals.

Spain next I hear ?

**ltfc_2004** · 23/05/2023, 8:14 PM

The commentator went no relation if anyone is wondering at home and Cawley went everyone is wondering !

**pineapple stu** · 23/05/2023, 8:21 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

Spain next I hear ?

Winners of Group B technically. So Spain if they avoid a two-goal defeat to Serbia. Serbia if they can beat Spain by two goals and better Slovenia's result against Italy. Slovenia if Serbia beat Spain by two goals and don't better Slovenia's result against Italy.

Those games at 5pm tomorrow

**pixiehead** · 23/05/2023, 8:30 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Winners of Group B technically. So Spain if they avoid a two-goal defeat to Serbia. Serbia if they can beat Spain by two goals and better Slovenia's result against Italy. Slovenia if Serbia beat Spain by two goals and don't better Slovenia's result against Italy.

Those games at 5pm tomorrow

Serbia would just have to win, H2H comes into it before GD.

Of course a Slovenia win combined with a Serbia win changes that H2H to include 3 teams, all with 3pts, with current GD of

Spain +1 max(3scored+),
Slovenia 0 (5scored) and
Serbia - 1 min(3scoredmin+) .

A Serbia single goal win (+Slovenia win), would see Spain group winner. Slovenia 2nd(better GD)

A Serbia 2-0/3-1 win (+Slovenia win), would see Slovenia group winner. Serbia 2nd (most GS or equal GS but Slovenia beat Serbia)

Any other Serbia 2 goal win (+Slovenia win), would see Serbia group winner. Spain 2nd (most GS and or equal GS but Spain beat Slovenia)

Any other Serbia win (+Slovenia win), would see Serbia group winner. Slovenia 2nd (better GD)

**CraftyToePoke** · 23/05/2023, 8:37 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Winners of Group B technically. So Spain if they avoid a two-goal defeat to Serbia. Serbia if they can beat Spain by two goals and better Slovenia's result against Italy. Slovenia if Serbia beat Spain by two goals and don't better Slovenia's result against Italy.

Those games at 5pm tomorrow

Just had a gander at their squads club list there and its every bit as unnerving as you'd fear.

**pineapple stu** · 23/05/2023, 9:34 PM

Plenty of Juve/Inter/AC players in the Italy squad and we saw how well that worked.

But yeah, it's a free shot really

**tetsujin1979** · 23/05/2023, 11:45 PM

Portugal out after only drawing with France, when they needed a win. I'd have had them down as one of the favourites
One of the England team has played in the Premier League - Ethan Nwaneri - who played a few minutes as a substitute for Arsenal against Brentford in September
The Spanish striker Yamal has one appearance for Barcelona in La Liga

**Real ale Madrid** · 24/05/2023, 12:44 PM

5 spots up for grabs in the U17 World Cup ( Venue TBC) in Nov / Dec which we are in the mix for now.

Straight in if we win a QF.

The teams with the best 2 group records defeated in the QF will play-off for the 5th world cup spot.

That would be some achievement.

**tetsujin1979** · 24/05/2023, 3:10 PM

Final set of fixtures in Group B have just kicked off. Serbia have to better Slovenia's result if they want to go through to the quarter finals
Spain - Serbia updates: https://www.uefa.com/under17/match/2...ain-vs-serbia/
Slovenia - Italy updates: https://www.uefa.com/under17/match/2...enia-vs-italy/

Spain's Mesa has already been booked for diving and will miss the quarter finals, yellow cards are not wiped out until the semi final stage

Earlier England and Switzerland drew 0-0, so England top Group D, and Switzerland finish second. With seven points, Switzerland have a better record than we do, and will be ahead of us in the World Cup play offs. A draw in both games would be good for our case, or a Spain win.

Slovenia's keeper has just been sent off, that'll make that game interesting.

**pixiehead** · 24/05/2023, 4:27 PM

Currently Serbia 1-0 Spain, Italy 1-0 Slovenia
That would see us meet Serbia... long way to go. (Would also knock us out of the U17 World Cup unfortunately)

Spain equalise, Spain it will be.
If we lost to Spain, we would need England and Poland to win to qualify for WC playoff.

**JR89** · 24/05/2023, 4:58 PM

The only QF I'd worry about would be Poland vs Serbia. But also at the same time I doubt we'd beat Switzerland if it was us two in the play off for that last spot.

**tetsujin1979** · 24/05/2023, 5:44 PM

Watched some of the England-Switzerland game earlier. Switzerland should have walked away with a win, just couldn't score. The England keeper was inspired, even saved a penalty.

**tetsujin1979** · 25/05/2023, 10:04 AM

The ranking of the quarter finalists has been added to wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_U...Knockout_stage

Ranking of Quarter-Finalists

Pos	Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
1	Germany	3	3	0	0	10	1	9	9
1	England	3	2	1	0	5	1	4	7
1	Spain	3	2	1	0	6	3	3	7
1	Poland	3	2	0	1	10	7	3	6
2	Switzerland	3	2	1	0	4	1	3	7
2	Republic of Ireland	3	2	0	1	8	7	1	6
2	France	3	1	1	1	5	5	0	4
2	Serbia	3	1	1	1	5	5	0	4

If we lose to Spain, to qualify for the World Cup play off, we need France(who play England in the quarters) and Serbia(who play Poland) to be knocked out

**tetsujin1979** · 27/05/2023, 5:03 PM

Poland and German through after beating Serbia and Switzerland, respectively. Germany played most of the game with ten men after centre half Dal was sent off after 15 minutes. They equalised in the second half and went on to win on penalties.
The result of all that is that, should England beat France, Ireland will play Switzerland in the World Cup play off.
Starting XI against Spain announced

**pineapple stu** · 27/05/2023, 6:05 PM

Already well under the cosh in the first five minutes.

Hopefully it's just Spain going for the jugular early on, cos if they can keep that up for the full 90 we'll be in trouble.

**nigel-harps1954** · 27/05/2023, 6:21 PM

Settled a little better since. Starting to play a little bit of football, and dealt fairly comfortably with anything the Spanish have thrown at us so far. The way it's going though, it's looking like a largely backs to the wall performance for 90 minutes.