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    Keith Long

    Departed Bohs,be interesting to see who takes over..,

    https://bohemianfc.com/?page_id=18505
    Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.

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    What kind of budget was he operating with at Bohs ? After last years achievement's it seems somewhat harsh even with how poor an inconsistent they have been this season.

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    Disappointed to hear that, he was doing a great job of regressing the team year by year and dodging trophies while doing it. At least he'll get a lovely payout on his contract that runs until the end of 2024, another Daniel Lambert masterclass that one
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    they'd be mad not to chance taking ryan from wexford.

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    I know they've been v bad lately but I would have given him until the end of the season to see if the new players can start to gel and if he can improve performances a bit.
    That said, his tendency to drop his best players if he knows they're going to leave next year always irked me.

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    Surely it's Ian Ryan, the only logical choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    What kind of budget was he operating with at Bohs ? After last years achievement's it seems somewhat harsh even with how poor an inconsistent they have been this season.
    Have seen plenty of bohs fans say it was big enough that they should be getting europe.

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    They've decent crowds, a nice Euro bonus from last year, and is the Matt Doherty million still floating about?

    They can't be on that low a budget.

    Fourth-highest in the league would be my guess

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    Did they go properly full-time as well? A well known bohs fan and vhs afficianado on Twitter seemed to suggest so but I thought they were still pretending to be amateur.

    They really should have backed Long properly after they finished second. They had serious momentum but football seemed to take second fiddle. Long and the team look uninterested or at least deflated this season to me. I hesitate to comment on other team's managers too much because you don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I wouldn't be too shocked to learn there was tension between Long and Lambert. They had the money to push on and keep a team together but they seemed to just hope that Long could "work another miracle" i.e. sign half a team and hope for the best every year.

    Ian Ryan would be the brave and smart choice but who knows what they'll do.
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    He had a very healthy budget and nobody involved with Bohs directly was saying we were still struggling financially. I'd say it was very comparable to Dundalk and Pats. Weird how that narrative still manages to go that we're potless between some Bohs fans and fans of other clubs. The reason the pressure increased this year is because the budget was so healthy compared to the last ten years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ontheotherhand View Post
    They had the money to push on and keep a team together
    I think they did the absolute right thing of reinvesting the money into training facilities and academy structures.
    How many times have we seen LOI teams spunk away winnings on the 1st team with nothing left to show for it a few seasons later.
    Nice to see a LOI team doing the sensible thing for once.
    But they took the risk that the 1st team might regress, and it has.

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    The club is in a lot stronger position than when he took over, he maybe not right for what they need now but he did a great job for the club when they needed it

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    Its a bit strange in timing imo, looking like they were already prepping for next season and no risk of relegation, and in the last 8 of the cup. In this league 2 or 3 wins can change the complexion of things and I dont think there was a whole lot wrong with the team that couldnt be sorted. Talk of loyalty and a good lot of the plaudits in the Bohs statement will ring hollow for Long though at least there wasnt the standard mutual consent rubbish. Could Croly step up again or prefer to stay in the background, a young manager like Ryan could need an battle hardened head around. Roddy was talking about having a job in the lines recently. St Pats frantically checking their paperwork today and Conor Hoey readying a statement thanking Bohs for taking their manager and players...just in case.

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    It was time to go for Long but he will be remembered fondly I believe.Unfortunately, like politics, football management generally ends in failure. Not sure he got the backing when he needed it 2-3 seasons ago and by the time he did, other clubs had gotten the jump on us. I think the fears of the past influenced decision making when it came to taking the next steps for the on-field side of the club. Multi-year contracts, going full-time. Focus on off-field activities did not help either…

    Who will be next I have no idea. There will be plenty of names throwing their hat into the ring. It’s an attractive role. Budget will be decent and the club is very stable. We also tend to give managers a bit of time. I see Ian Ryan and Perth mentioned a lot. Time will tell…

    All the best Keith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    St Pats frantically checking their paperwork today and Conor Hoey readying a statement thanking Bohs for taking their manager and players...just in case.
    that made me chuckle … was a bit like that last off season wasn’t it - albeit I think Drogs fans would go nuts if Doherty jumped ship vs Clancy (most felt Clancy had done all he could with us but we didn’t tell pats that at the time 😂 )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ontheotherhand View Post
    Did they go properly full-time as well? A well known bohs fan and vhs afficianado on Twitter seemed to suggest so but I thought they were still pretending to be amateur.
    We are part time (not amateur). A big part of why it proved difficult at times to attract/retain certain players - apparently. Long actually didn't spend the budget that was assigned to him for this season which for me was a massive red flag going into the season. While we are part time, the club has announced (I think publicly) that it would be moving to full time effective next season.

    Long did well by us (and all the best to him in the future) but the last year or so has been an absolute disaster on the pitch and the club waited too long to pull the pin in my opinion. I cant believe that they seemingly doubled down on him in the midseason window.

    Pineapple is about right, i reckon, when he says we likely have in and around the 4th highest budget. Somewhere between third to fifth would be my guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Its a bit strange in timing imo, looking like they were already prepping for next season and no risk of relegation, and in the last 8 of the cup. In this league 2 or 3 wins can change the complexion of things and I dont think there was a whole lot wrong with the team that couldnt be sorted.
    He couldn't sort it though. He was given a lot of time and money to turn it round and if anything performances have gotten worse.
    Last edited by SkStu; 30/08/2022 at 6:50 PM.

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    Joking aside I'm surprised they didn't give him the game against Rovers on Friday, as Nesta said its the kind of league where a few wins changes everything (Pats looked out of it a few weeks ago but 3 wins and a couple of dropped points for Dundalk and Derry and they are basically tied for second with them). A win over Rovers and it could have lifted them.

    Be interesting to see does Crolly change things up for Friday.

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    Vinny Perth would be perfect for that club.

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    The performances were going from bad to worse recently- the team looked increasingly rudderless- no one seemed to know where to play the ball or where to move to offer an outlet.

    Too reliant on moments of individual trickery. The coaching seemed to be an issue, in which case I'm not confident that Croly and Pender will turn it round for Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Its a bit strange in timing imo, looking like they were already prepping for next season and no risk of relegation, and in the last 8 of the cup.
    Is being in the last 8 of the cup an influence on the timing of the decision? 2 or 3 wins might change the complexion of things in the league. Win the cup, Bohs can look forward to another European windfall.
    A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
    Opportunity seems lost somewhere in between for new clubs/regions to become part of LoI family.

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