QuoteTake away the top tiers daveh. If you can picture that. Its what the shelbourne fans were pushing for. If they build a proper stadium they can upgrade it later and wont have to build a new one for a very long time
http://www.stadiumguide.com/borasarena.htm
No eircom league club could justify a stadium of that size, at the moment anyway
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Take away the top tiers daveh. If you can picture that. Its what the shelbourne fans were pushing for. If they build a proper stadium they can upgrade it later and wont have to build a new one for a very long time
Thats fair enough,but even a stadium of that size would need champions league football,if not every year then fairly regularly to justify it,not to mention securing a new fanbase out in wherever it is yere goin
How much are ye getin for tolka btw?
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Nobody knows, the rumours on it vary.Originally Posted by daveh
As for that Swedish stadium, without the top tiers how much would it hold? Surely if with the top tiers 14,500 then not that much. Though the ends behind the goals do appear to be terraces from that picture which could mean they're not counted in the 14,500 figure.
I cant speak much swedish but I make that as 10,000 sitting and 5,000 standing.Åskådare ca 10.000 sittande och 5.000 stående på kortsidor
http://www.borasarena.se/fakta.html
Yeah. Which is suprising, that means put seats where the terracing is and remove the top tier and it is probably under the capacity of Tolka Park, and by a fair bit too
Last edited by Slash/ED; 28/08/2005 at 8:42 PM.
Very strange because there seems to be a lot of depth in the seating in the Boras Arena from what I can see. Looking at the Rusden and Diamonds seating its very shallow. (its like the end oppositie the TV camera at Turners Cross).
Still the Boras Arena is far superior than Tolka even though it may be the same size with jsut the lower tier and all seating. It has loads of facilites and future expansion would be straightforward.
Just over 3,000 capacity, with an identical stand on the opposite side - 6,000 was all we were given in the planning permission, but the original design does allow for the seating to uniformally extend right around the four sides, bringing the capacity to 10,000. Now that the council have reclaimed the lease they will soon be pushing ahead with the completion of the existing stand, and the one opposite. Hopefully finished in time for us to be playing there before the end of next season, if not some time in early 2007.
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If anyones interested:
Currently
Design
With the two stands the capacity would be 6,000 although expansion to 10,000 would mean a fully enclosed stadium as originally planned.(see below)
Floor Plan
Sketch
Elevation
Last edited by Buller; 29/08/2005 at 11:31 AM.
A few questions about the Tallaght ground - looks really good in the final sketches btw.
1(a) Do you know what the nature of the agreement between the club and the county council will be?
(b) Will it be a full time lease or will it be a rental agreement, ie will the club be able to rent out the stadium for other games/purposes or will any other rental income go to the council, like in the RSC in Waterford.
(c) Will there be a training ground attached or will Rovers have to rent somewhere to train (most clubs do as far as I know)
2(a) Wondering with a new stadium like this would it be worth looking at putting in a Dundalk style pitch?
(b) If not, who will be responsible for the pitch maintenance, the club or the council?
3 Will there be floodlights? (Not shown on plans)
4 What will be the nature of the standing room away from the stand? Will proper terraces be constructed or will it be a mud bank?
5 Nothing to do with the stadium, but how far away is the nearest LUAS stop?
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1(a) Do you know what the nature of the agreement between the club and the county council will be?
> Rovers to be anchor tenents with first preference on use of all stadium facilities. There will be NO RENT. The only payment that the SDCC recieves from Rovers is a 50% cut of all adverising revenue in the stadium.
(b) Will it be a full time lease or will it be a rental agreement, ie will the club be able to rent out the stadium for other games/purposes or will any other rental income go to the council, like in the RSC in Waterford.
> Rovers have use of the stadium for up to 40 matches a year. Any income generated by these games goes straight to Rovers
(c) Will there be a training ground attached or will Rovers have to rent somewhere to train (most clubs do as far as I know)
> Yes, plus land given over to the club to build its own clubhouse independent (but adjacent to) the stadium
2(a) Wondering with a new stadium like this would it be worth looking at putting in a Dundalk style pitch?
> Grass pitch installed four years ago
(b) If not, who will be responsible for the pitch maintenance, the club or the council?
> All stadium maintainance to be the responsibilty of the council (including costs)
3 Will there be floodlights? (Not shown on plans)
> Yes
4 What will be the nature of the standing room away from the stand? Will proper terraces be constructed or will it be a mud bank?
> Strictly speaking no terracing allowed, but I imagine a similar situation to what happens at Turners Cross when it fills up occuring
5 Nothing to do with the stadium, but how far away is the nearest LUAS stop?
> 5 minutes walk
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Floodlights are clearly shown in the elevation plan. Dont ask me why theyre not in the final sketch...3 Will there be floodlights? (Not shown on plans)
nice 1 for posting those plans.
Looks like Shamrock Rovers got a fantastic deal with the county council. I didnt think they were going to extend the seating all the way around like that. 10,000 seater capacity is brilliant but one stand will be enough to start with. That would be excellent for any european games as well
is it engineering possible to put another tier on the stadium in tallaght ??
Yes, one tier on top of nothing is quite easy.
How big do you think they need the stadium to be?
10,000 is big enough for the forseeable future but if they could add another tier and make it a 20,000 seater it would be a fantastic facility for future european games.
Is the plan to get rid of the terrace altoghter. if so i think this is a bad idea. everyone knows the best atmosphere comes from a terrace especially turners cross. i think eircom league clubs should look towards putting good quality terrace in especially behind goals. i know it will mean reduced capacity for european games but there will generaly not be more of three or four of them a season. i think there is a fascination in the league with throwing seats anywhere they can. look at tolka park for instance some of the seating arrangements are useless. i would definetly agree with shels building a 5000 seater initially. they are going to have to double there average attendance to fill it. the league should focus on building up ground occupancy and not just building stands there is a better atmosphere in a 5000 seater with 3500 in it than a 10000 seater with 5000 in it
i think some of the german clubs have terracing and seating.. i think some of them can convert to seating for european games. Just look at the San Siro in Italy, they are seats but everyone is standing on them. we would never get away with that here but if we could convert standing to seating for european games it would be the ideal situation
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