Corks New Stand Plans...

**jorge** · 27/07/2005, 10:29 PM

Thanks,it looks the part.

**thejollyrodger** · 27/08/2005, 1:21 PM

those plans look fantastic. I didnt know the new stand at the shed end was going right the way across the pitch. Its really going to add to the atmosphere down at Turners Cross !!

I thought that was the worst part of the ground, with the old toilet and all. Now its going to be the best part.

I think they should close up the old tunnel and put seating in there.

RTE said that Cork had plans to eventually bring the capacity to 14,000 seater. Is that right ? I dont know how they did their sums but one stand (opposite TV camera ) is very narrow and there is a load of houses in behind there so I cant see how they would increase it past 7,000.

Turners Cross will be the business after the new stand.

I hope shels get on with their plans

**gael353** · 27/08/2005, 5:08 PM

Im not trying to be funny lads but that stand is the exact same (if a little smaller) as the main stand in the showgrounds in sligo and that stand has its knockers as in me! you can see it in the side elevation shot the stand seating is split into two, the rear seating will have no problems as the elevation of the eats is good (people will be able to see over each other) but the front area will be sore on the necks. No elevation means everyone will be on high arse as they attempt to sit yet stand to see over the 6ft 7 person in front of them come to think of it a 4ft 6 person may cause problems. Dont get me wrong i wish all at cork city well but why oh why are all the stands in el designed by the same bloody crowd? I was in holland years ago and i asked a guy about seating he told me that the top back of the seat in front of you should be at minimum level with the lower of ur seat that ur sitting on. Ive only found this once in Ireland at that was in Monaghan but that stand too has its problems as in its 50 yards from the pitch. Just my opinion lads

**Buller** · 27/08/2005, 5:31 PM

RTE said that Cork had plans to eventually bring the capacity to 14,000 seater. Is that right ? I dont know how they did their sums but one stand (opposite TV camera ) is very narrow and there is a load of houses in behind there so I cant see how they would increase it past 7,000.

At the moment turners cross has 5,500 seats, the new shed end stand will bring it up to 7,000 seats. The main stand where the tv camara is doesn't go the full length of the pitch and so could be extended giving an extra 1,000 seats max. Maybe there could be another 1,000 seats fit in at the St. Annes end if they went further up theres space there...???

Maybe 4/500 more seats in the corners if they were lucky?!
So if that would put the maximum expansion capacity of turners cross at about 10,000 all-seater. Any thoughts?!

**thejollyrodger** · 27/08/2005, 5:35 PM

that stand has its knockers as in me!

What does that mean

Ive only found this once in Ireland at that was in Monaghan but that stand too has its problems as in its 50 yards from the pitch.

Well done monaghan eh

The stand may be a similar design to the one you have in Sligo but there may be more elevation used in the Cork stand. Maybe someone from Cork can clarify this point.

**martin_rules_ie** · 27/08/2005, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by gael353

that stand has its knockers as in me!

not sure what it means? are you calling yourself a tit?
sorry couldn't resist

**thejollyrodger** · 27/08/2005, 5:42 PM

I dont know Buller, but I know what you mean. They could extend the camera stand the full length of the pitch, fill in the corners and old tunnel for a start and that might add 2,000.

The only way to get past 9,000 seater capacity would be to purchase land from those houses opposite the TV cameras but that would be astromoical prices.

Still 7,000 (or even 9,000) people regularly attending CCFC matches would be a major boost for the coffers.

**bigmac** · 27/08/2005, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by gael353

Ive only found this once in Ireland at that was in Monaghan but that stand too has its problems as in its 50 yards from the pitch. Just my opinion lads

Never been to the RSC? plenty of elevation on the stand - there has to be to see past the athletics track

**gael353** · 27/08/2005, 6:26 PM

first up knockers as in a person who knocks back ideas and all, i think ye all got my point and about the RSC i had forgotten but again miles from the pitch. The nearest thing to a good stand in EL is the one in Buckley park but the front two rows are ****ee as they seem to have run out of ideas as to where to put seats. Is there any team in the land that can bulid a stand with good elevation (so everyone can see) with no pylons in front (so everyone can see) with disabled seats (not a spare ramp on the outer roof of a stand) with a roof that covers all the seats and most of all with good toilets. I think some first division teams could show the way as in athlone or maybe limerick. Oh about the plans btw, we in limerick have seen these before. Our plan for the pike rovers was very very similar

**thejollyrodger** · 27/08/2005, 6:45 PM

Shelbourne have plans to develop a new stadium out in Donebate. Its based on the rushden and diamonds stadium in England. Not the prettist of stadiums IMO, but can be expanded with a second tier.

**TonyD** · 27/08/2005, 8:57 PM

Originally Posted by gael353

The nearest thing to a good stand in EL is the one in Buckley park

Have you never been in Dalymount ? The Jodi Stand is superb, best stand in the league by a mile. Lots of leg-room, great height between the seats and a nice view of the pitch. The main stand in Flancare Park is good too.

**gael353** · 27/08/2005, 9:14 PM

Originally Posted by TonyD

Have you never been in Dalymount ? The Jodi Stand is superb, best stand in the league by a mile. Lots of leg-room, great height between the seats and a nice view of the pitch. The main stand in Flancare Park is good too.

agree two fine stands but both have obstructions in their designs. In short poles in the way. hea look im no expert but if anyone wants to see what i mean i can e-mail pics to them of good and bad stands. gael353@hotmail.com

**Buller** · 27/08/2005, 9:38 PM

Its based on the rushden and diamonds stadium in England. Not the prettist of stadiums IMO, but can be expanded with a second tier.

Rushden and Diamonds ground?!
Shels are basing donebate on a 5000 seater stadium?!

is this the stadium, Nene Park???

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pa.../rushden22.jpg
You cant be serious! Wheres the two tiers!!!

**daveh** · 27/08/2005, 9:42 PM

That looks like a nice little stadium,would be perfect for any eircom league club imo,could be a small bit bigger alrite.It reminds me of nijmegans ground,obviously on a smaller scale

**Sliog�n D�ite** · 27/08/2005, 9:44 PM

It will be a 6800 seater with one tier and another can be added easily (if we hit the big time!).

**pete** · 27/08/2005, 11:14 PM

Better to have improved facilities on a modest scale instead of starting projects that cannot be completed.

The Main Stand in Tallaght will cost anything from 5-10m when completed & rest of ground will still have mud banks.

**gael353** · 28/08/2005, 5:57 PM

Originally Posted by Buller

Rushden and Diamonds ground?!
Shels are basing donebate on a 5000 seater stadium?!

is this the stadium, Nene Park???

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pa.../rushden22.jpg
You cant be serious! Wheres the two tiers!!!

And at the end of which you dont see in the pic is the biggest stand with an arced roof. I think the stand just on the right in this pic should be what most clubs should be going for.

**daveh** · 28/08/2005, 6:15 PM

The Cross in a perfect world!!

http://www.stadionwelt.de/Stadionwel.../NEC_LE_02.jpg

**thejollyrodger** · 28/08/2005, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sliog�n D�ite

It will be a 6800 seater with one tier and another can be added easily (if we hit the big time!).

Yeah, initial plans are for 6,800 seater capacity with just the bottom tier. If Shels ever made the group stages of the Champions league regularly a second tier could (will according to Shelbourne FC) be added. That would bring the capacity to about 14,000 or something like that.

Considering that Munster rugby are upgrading their stadium to 14,000 and they are playing big games all the time, Shelbourne's plans are good.

I hate the Rusden and Diamonds stadium though http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pa...45/rushden.htm. Its typical anglo saxon stadium design - square and ugly. The Boras Arena is the swedish model based on the same design as the Rusden and Diamonds stadium AFAIK. Its far nicer and costs about �12million Euro and has a 14,500 seater capacity. http://www.stadiumguide.com/borasarena.htm

Shelbourne said the WONT be basing their design on the Boras Arena. It would have been a great show case for the EL though.

**thejollyrodger** · 28/08/2005, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Better to have improved facilities on a modest scale instead of starting projects that cannot be completed.

The Main Stand in Tallaght will cost anything from 5-10m when completed & rest of ground will still have mud banks.

What will the capacity of the stand be ?

The tallaght stadium looks pretty big IMO but i never got a proper look at it. Would there be enough room to continue the stand the full way around the pitch if funds were ever found ?