Originally Posted by latte2012
plenty of teams do it. the aul is particularly shambolic at this time of year for teams giving walkovers.
Must be nearly impossible for a team with nothing to play for to field a team at this stage in the year.
plenty of teams do it. the aul is particularly shambolic at this time of year for teams giving walkovers.
Happens ever league.
Saw them Sunday Right winger got a hatrick and the striker looked very sharp upfront.
Was chatting with a lad in the stand he said they got a few from Fermoy team.
Will watergrasshill show there class and come up to temple tomorrow and watch them lift the cup or will they take the easy way out and not show up
Hi all,
I know nothing about Cork Junior football but just reading through the thread and ye're saying Coachford are way ahead of the rest - if that's the case why would they not join the Munster Senior League?
Have clubs ever moved from AUL to MSL?
In the last few years in Dublin the AUL there has fallen apart because all their clubs have left to join the Leinster Senior League, even though they have to go down to the 5th Division.
I phoned the speaking clock to hear a voice speak, it said - "At the tone you will be very much alone"
Many teams have moved over to MSL.
Many teams over in MSL have brought their junior side into MSL.
It has certainly weekend the AUL.
I feel any club with underage, good facilities and people involved should move over.
Coachford have expressed that it'll take a few years to move up through the divisons in MSL and may be weak by then.
Not off hand. But, a club should probably look to what's best for the future and that does look elsewhere. A few clubs have the underage and facilities, stange there hasn't been a movement by them.
Killreen at the time were clearly the second strongest side in the AUL after Park, for whatever reason it didn’t work out for them, made sense for them at the time but a truly disastrous decision
It is the right thing to do in most situations but if this is the same Temple that are heading MSL they might think twice about heading up there.
In the 30 years there has not been a single Aul club that has made any sort of serious dent in the MSL. If anything it has actually been a disaster of a move. The facilities got better an the clubs got worse. The MSL 2nd division is a who's who of teams that left for the promised land only to arrive in the desert.
I’m sure Watergrasshill do not care if Temple are heading to the MSL, the reason I asked the question is with the cup final being on Sunday would they risk playing the game
Watergrashill can use the game as prep for cup final or give lads a run. It may be useful for a number of reasons.
Lads, those clubs are still best served where they have gone. They are with other teams with good facilities, lads get to play cup games against excellent teams. Like anything, if teams are languishing they need to go a step further and push.
Nothing stopping a team putting in an AUL side too.
Inishvilla And Killreen are both junior now how can you say it’s worked out for them
I see Grattan looking for a manager again, with Knocka starting back up could this impact them?
Did Kanturk not get promoted in the last week or so?
They still play on better pitches. Get ready in better facilities. Have far less chance of games called off, walkovers, no refs showing and anything else. It's the interest by club members drives success of a club and not the association.
Corinthians, Ringmahon, Douglas Hall and all the big clubs have had decades of underage and have grown hugely with their facilities. Clubs that have gone over in last 10 years then need to aim for similar. They were never just going to get to the top end.
If Coachford went MSL, GAA would have a bigger impact as lads interest would not be same as they aren't winning as much anymore. I still feel they should go if they want to grow. It mite seem a long way away, but, take 20 years time, Coachford and any club wouldn't want to be relying on AUL football.
Move over, do what you can on pitch. Needs a huge committee effort, academy coaching and pathways. Win the AOH now and be left fall behind football clubs in next decade or make the jump if Committee interest is there to grow? I'd move.
It's hard to decide to push on . Lots of factors at play. Coachford are looking at all the other small town clubs who have tried to push on but it has to have back up an I think they don't. The catchment area for City clubs allows them the ability to survive an turnover players , the country sides don't have that unless they pay an Coachford tried that in years gone by.
Country sides need to move through the divisions an stick together which they can do , but the city sides are built on turnover , buddies an pubs,,,,,Grattan will change manager because its arguably the hardest job in junior football cause they start the season wanting to win everything an know they are up against it straight away,,,,,, Coachford are ahead, Grattan ain't fading away ,,,,,,,be an interesting season to come.
Yeah Kanturk got promoted to the 1st division
I’ve been involved with Kanturk the last 2 years when we went MSL from AUL
It’s the best decision the club has ever made
Better games,better facilities,better organisation
Our last year in AUL we were going up to pitches with glass on the pitch ,which isn’t the AUL fault
AUL were very good for Kanturk down the years
It was just the right time to move and best decision we’ve made as a club
I think one of the key factors in clubs having long term success in MSL is the underage set-up. You need to have to that feeding into the senior team every few years to have any sort of hope of long term success.
Like mentioned above, City clubs have less issues when it's very easy to poach, look at players coming from other under-age set-ups etc. A short spin across the city and you'll pass 20 clubs!
A club like Kanturk for example works very hard to keep the underage teams going year on year, and when you're competing with GAA in a country town, odds are these young fellas won't keep playing once they get to 16-17. They do well to get maybe 2 lads that might keep playing beyond 19-20 years of age with the club.
When people question Coachford's decision whether to go up or not, this is a huge factor to consider.
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