Hey come on now LFCIE, this thread is about an argument with Mr. Drew (well, actually it isn't, but its ended up that way!) theres no need to drag a seemingly innocent 3rd party lik WillieJohn into the argument just to prove your pointOriginally Posted by LFC in Exile
A lot of people on the board at the start of the season were insisting that WillieJohn identify himself and his connections to the club. Now the same posters are complaining that DD wants to know who they are. Its just ironic.
bingo ..NOC anyway.If he is an owner I am glad he put up his own money to save the club
also take what joesoap +wj say with a pitch of salt as they say ,sounds like they have a hidden agenda ........ maybe one is an owner too there are more than 2 owners ( mos+rm are just fans now its not them )
Don't take my comment as evidence or information that NOC is an owner. I don't even know the guy. I said "if". I am as much in the dark as most.
"It's impossible to make a man understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding" Upton Sinclair
Id give him till two weeks before next season. Then if he hasnt gotten a promotion certainty squad together then its on your bike Noel. This years squad was poor to start with and i think we were all surprised to be in 2nd only 5 weeks ago. But the main plus this season has to be our under 21 squad.. I known its not going to pull in the crowds or anything but the quality is there and its there for the future and run properly. Dont get me wrong i like Noel but his back room team was all wrong to start with one in part i cant stand and has to be the most ignorant man ive ever come across oh and hes got no coaching badges. This season the first div is total shiiite and we are missing a great oppertunity. Next season i expect Athlone to be a big force with John Gill at the helm (ul rememeber that i wanted him to take us up this year) we still have a chance this year cos the league is so bad but its getting less and less likely every game. People say to me but look at what ye had last year and yea i agree, we were shocking in the clubs set up and this year it is a big improvement but, i wont compare this years team to last years ill compare it to the years before when with nearly an all local side we reached the playoffs. So if things have improved so much on the field then we should be going on a 15 game unbeaten run (in this ****e div) from say the Kilkenny game next Tuesday? Lets see it happen
why would they not be aloud in i dont understand why , did they not pay at the gate ,
surely you wouldnt begrudge them coming to watch a match after keeping the club afloat for so long when NO ONE ELSE WOULD . dont forget even if you dont think they did a good job there would nt be any club at all if it was nt for them ,
then you would have no one to complain about
he is !
did no one ask them selves how he got the job ??
I don't think he means in to watch a match (I have seen them at a few games this year) - he means "in" in the sense of involved with running the club. At least that's the meaning I take from it. And if my interpretation is right then I agree that they shouldn't be involved. The club went through its worst period of administration under their stewardship - for whatever reasons - so involving them again is very strange.why would they not be aloud in i dont understand why , did they not pay at the gate ,
surely you wouldnt begrudge them coming to watch a match after keeping the club afloat for so long when NO ONE ELSE WOULD . dont forget even if you dont think they did a good job there would nt be any club at all if it was nt for them ,
then you would have no one to complain about
"It's impossible to make a man understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding" Upton Sinclair
McGauley spent 7 years with Home Farm / Everton / Fingal before 3 at Dublin City - So thats ten in total.
Dar stands corrected.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
You will have to forgive me if my post today did not make sense but I'm posting at work during my lunch break but just to clarify a few points for ye...
No I certainly don't begrudge Michael and Ralph coming to watch Limerick play matches but I do begrudge them becoming involved in the club at committee level. In regards to keeping the club afloat, it was quite evident towards the end of their term that the clubs best interest was not at the forefront of their actions. It would be nice to know exactly how much money Michael held out for again, despite reassuring us (after the '3 amigos' had gone behind our backs and started a company saying they owned Limerick - to go off on a tangent they had no legitmate claim to the club) that he was not interested in making money from the club. While it is my opinion, thankfully it is based on fact that they did not do a good job with Limerick. They were incompetent, shortsighted, naive and ignorant when running the club. I'd much prefer them to be paying fans than actually involved in the running of the club. The fact that Danny has left them back in raises serious questions about his business acumen in regards to the club. Oh yes if the '3 amigos' (can I remind people how John Purcell swore blue in the face that he was quitting his job to become the full time comercial manager - what a bunch of cowboysOriginally by Anto1208
why would they not be aloud in i dont understand why , did they not pay at the gate, surely you wouldnt begrudge them coming to watch a match after keeping the club afloat for so long when NO ONE ELSE WOULD . dont forget even if you dont think they did a good job there would nt be any club at all if it was nt for them) had suddenly left I don't think it would have been the end of the club but rather we would have turned things around a lot sooner than now. I think you will find that there were certain parties interested in getting involved, the problem was Michael's reluctance to leave without some reward (cash for those who can't guess).
Sorry I had actually intended to put in brackets that I thought Danny the lesser of two evils. In regards to Danny I think he has to learn to take a step back and not allow things to become too personal which at recent matches he has done. His behaviour is very similiar to John Purcell who became quite paranoid at the most unoffending comment passed, whether here in foot.ie or in person. Also it would help if Danny didn't call Limerick fans scumbags.Originally by LFC In Exile
Isn't there a contradiction in that sentence? Without DD and NOC would there have been a survival at all to ruin?
I think NOC is a liability and I stated that before the beginning of the season here. I think Kerley should have been retained, I didn't like the tactics adopted by our now chairman and PRO in the way they attacked Mike and got rid of him at the end of last season, it displayed their lack of class and being. Despite my opinion of NOC I stated here again that I would support the team and the manager. Over a month and half ago I mentioned the restraint of fans including myself in not informing people of the malevolent behaviour of NOC towards players. It would have been quite simple to come on here then and tell people I told you so. To be honest I would have been absolutely delighted to have been proven wrong, nothing would have given me greater satisfaction than that. But unfortunately that is not the case, I have no confidence in NOC and I don't think he is capable of getting the best out of the team. Thats why I'll keep saying 'BRING BACK KERLEY', I've seen from NOC's previous term what direction the team is going to go and it's not good. Danny would be enjoying better success right now if he had kept Kerley.However, it might be stretching it a bit to say we have all been nothing but supportive since the start of the season (especially with NOC) - mostly people have been waiting for a chance to be proved right and as soon as it emerged jumped on it.
Limerick 37, its so shiny and new we dare not take the cover off.
Michael O'Sullivan is a lovely man, but the truth is he wouldn't organise a gang-bang in a brothel, never mind run a football club. I was told he may be re-installed as chairman, for reasons I'm not not going to go into on here (Willie John will have the calvery out if I doI don't think he means in to watch a match (I have seen them at a few games this year) - he means "in" in the sense of involved with running the club. At least that's the meaning I take from it. And if my interpretation is right then I agree that they shouldn't be involved. The club went through its worst period of administration under their stewardship - for whatever reasons - so involving them again is very strange.
Oh BTW thelimerick, I got a prompt reply to my PM to good old Willie. He basically said he wasn't Danny Drew, but did know him, and will pass on my message (asking what his problem is) to Danny. He recommended I ring Danny by getting his number off of a named S.C. officer. He also did a
Bringing back the moronic liabilities that robbed the club from the fans will put Willie John on an even worse footing with the fans and the general public. Lets see him attract sponsorship with the stooges back on board.
Willie John came on here a couple of weeks ago telling us to stop whinging, that we were doing well in the table. What does the schitzophrenic have to say now???
"Anyone who's Soapy should be flushed and anyone who's a Deserter should be shot."
- John Purcell (Limerick FC Commercial Manager), February 2004
....That you have been up for re-election a good few times before O'Connor came along.I think you have done better than expected this season, but the loss of some of your best players has put a dint in your season. I think O'Connor can keep up the good work, if he gets a win Limerick might get a string of good results. So I still think Noel could be the man to push Limerick for promotion in the next few seasons.....
Can we stop this "oh but look at ye now compared to last year" stuff. We should be doing better than we are. Aaron GUFC, you talk about the loss of our best players, have you wondered why? Then you say if NOC keeps up the good work. What good work would that be exactly, that we're not bottom?....That you have been up for re-election a good few times before O'Connor came along.BTW, we were up for re-election under O'Connor the last time he was in charge.
cough
no nothing of your off the field problems but as an outsider looking in,have seen ye 3 times this season against rams and if mike kerley was in manager ye would have more than 1 point to show from the games.kerley worked magic last season.noc is very limited as a manager.
I don't remember Bernard ever attacking Mike Kerley and getting rid of him?? Just to point out something....I'm not the club PRO, Bernard O'Neill is.
Just for future reference....
Sorry about that JoeOrignally by Joe Soap
I don't remember Bernard ever attacking Mike Kerley and getting rid of him?? Just to point out something....I'm not the club PRO, Bernard O'Neill is.
Just for future reference....
Limerick 37, its so shiny and new we dare not take the cover off.
no need to worry on that front ye are reading to much into it all the only meaning to "in" is in the ground watchin as fans ...they might lend a hand but in the same way you would lend a hand if asked.he means "in" in the sense of involved with running the club. At least that's the meaning I take from it. And if my interpretation is right then I agree that they shouldn't be involved. The club went through its worst period of administration under their stewardship - for whatever reasons - so involving them again is very strange.
fr joe's was the worst , ran to america leaving the club flat broke and homeless , thats were all the problems stemmed from so if ye want to point finger point them his way not mos and rm who had to pick up the peice's and did it out of love for the club nothing else .
thats my point he is neither a chairman or a gang bang organiser , he gave it a go when the club was seriously screwed & tried his best and thats it , its not as if people were queing up to take charge ,
and nempton not everything is such a big conspiricy as you make out and you are wrong on a number of points ive no interest in debating this again im just saying dont belive everything you hear in the stand
im just waiting for you to accuse him of shooting JFK
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