Armenia V Republic of Ireland - Saturday, 4th June 2022 - 2022/23 UEFA Nations League

**SkStu** · 04/06/2022, 3:26 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Fairy nuff. Hard to argue against that really. I just don't see it happening.

We're in relegation trouble again.

I’m not overly optimistic either but as I said it’s the return that is needed to keep the faith.

Though I know what you mean given were now in the relegation spot

, I’m not sure we’re in relegation trouble. I still see us outdoing Armenia for points over the course of the campaign.

**BOOMSHAKALAKA** · 04/06/2022, 3:34 PM

Time to get rid of this joke of a manager. Surely everyone has realised that at this stage?

**Razors left peg** · 04/06/2022, 3:35 PM

Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA

Time to get rid of this joke of a manager. Surely everyone has realised that at this stage?

And out of the weeds he comes

**tetsujin1979** · 04/06/2022, 3:36 PM

BS, Paul, and Weldoninho all posting again. Definitely an international window.

**pineapple stu** · 04/06/2022, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by CSAD

I don’t either but think it’s needed, I don’t think it’s impossible, While at the moment Ukraine and Scotland are better than us they aren’t great sides and if we play like we didn’t versus Portugal or Serbia we have a shot of winning either game albeit it won’t be easy. Thankfully we have Ukraine 2 days after the WC play off so they may be drained and we might have a shot of catching them cold.

I think we need to acknowledge that Portugal weren't interested in Lansdowne and Serbia battered us until they scored a farcical own goal.

I wouldn't fancy the chances of a repeat of those performances allowing us a win sadly.

I agree neither Ukraine or Scotland (or Portugal or Serbia) are great sides and I agree it's unlikely but technically not impossible we could win

We really need some sort of result in Tuesday as a response to today.

**pineapple stu** · 04/06/2022, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

BS, Paul, and Weldoninho all posting again. Definitely an international window.

And BOOMERS too

**joey B** · 04/06/2022, 3:49 PM

Hard to defend Kenny after that and I’ve always been a fan and was optimistic for him,I’m not optimistic for his future as Ireland manager anymore ,but I hope I’m wrong….

**pineapple stu** · 04/06/2022, 3:54 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Though I know what you mean given were now in the relegation spot

, I’m not sure we’re in relegation trouble. I still see us outdoing Armenia for points over the course of the campaign.

I think you're right. But it'd just take another frustrating draw at home to Armenia and we've a lot of catching up to do. And we're well capable of a frustrating draw, sadly

**paul_oshea** · 04/06/2022, 3:55 PM

Razors kind of hit the nail there , he's not learning and adapting I think he did intially when he took over out with the old and in with the new but he learnt the hardway that was the wrong approach, but he hasn't adapted his system or tactical nous. When all you have is a hammer everything is a nail. We could beat Ukraine with space and who are open but we could draw again with Armenia in September. So what do we want?

**Trequartista20** · 04/06/2022, 3:56 PM

Eleven Nations League games (obviously not all under Kenny) without a win and only two goals scored.

Only four other teams (including San Marino and Andorra) have failed to win in this time. Only San Marino have scored fewer goals than us.

**TrapAPony** · 04/06/2022, 4:02 PM

Originally Posted by Trequartista20

Eleven Nations League games (obviously not all under Kenny) without a win and only two goals scored.

Only four other teams (including San Marino and Andorra) have failed to win in this time. Only San Marino have scored fewer goals than us.

So much for the tiki-taka football Stephen Kenny was supposed to bring.

**lofty9** · 04/06/2022, 4:04 PM

I thought it was a 5pm ko. Didn't miss much then!

**Bielsa´s irish** · 04/06/2022, 4:04 PM

Obviously the problems are in the final parcel. Today we should have won. The all merry I don't like, but I wouldn't panic, we need a Francis Stapleton kind of fellow up front the type of job Lautaro Martinéz is doing for Argentina

**pineapple stu** · 04/06/2022, 4:13 PM

RTÉ not putting much effort in with their player ratings. 5s for everyone except Kelleher (6), Ogbene (6) and Collins (7)

I suppose in their defence, it's hard to pick one player who particularly let us down.

**Diggs246** · 04/06/2022, 4:21 PM

His contract was up in July. Seriously FFS
We should still have 3 games to decide whether to keep him or not. But for no sane reason we give him a new contract, with zero pressure on us.
Now we have him until 2024 and he isn't good enough.

**CSAD** · 04/06/2022, 4:39 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I think we need to acknowledge that Portugal weren't interested in Lansdowne and Serbia battered us until they scored a farcical own goal.

I wouldn't fancy the chances of a repeat of those performances allowing us a win sadly.

I agree neither Ukraine or Scotland (or Portugal or Serbia) are great sides and I agree it's unlikely but technically not impossible we could win

We really need some sort of result in Tuesday as a response to today.

Well to be fair a not so interested Portugal side is still better than Ukraine or Scotland. Serbia at home I’d agree although I don’t know if Ukraine or Scotland could do to us what Serbia so I think we’d have more time on the ball in this case. But also the away performance’s were good also, and funny enough Kenny had the same issues with the U21s, beating Sweden twice and then losing to Iceland and struggling against Armenia.

If Kenny can win the two home games and get a point in Łódź then I think it probably covers up the Armenia loss abit.

**Eirambler** · 04/06/2022, 4:42 PM

Originally Posted by Diggs246

His contract was up in July. Seriously FFS
We should still have 3 games to decide whether to keep him or not. But for no sane reason we give him a new contract, with zero pressure on us.
Now we have him until 2024 and he isn't good enough.

He could still be gone in July. There's a get out for the FAI after the Nations League I think. So they'd only have to pay a few more month's wages to get rid if this situation continues and we don't start winning games in the next 10 days.

**Diggs246** · 04/06/2022, 4:43 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

He could still be gone in July. There's a get out for the FAI after the Nations League I think. So they'd only have to pay a few more month's wages to get rid if this situation continues and we don't start winning games in the next 10 days.

Is that correct? Because that changes everything re contract?

**jbyrne** · 04/06/2022, 4:45 PM

a big step backwards. not good enough at all really.
very disappointing

**pineapple stu** · 04/06/2022, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by CSAD

Well to be fair a not so interested Portugal side is still better than Ukraine or Scotland. Serbia at home I’d agree although I don’t know if Ukraine or Scotland could do to us what Serbia so I think we’d have more time on the ball in this case. But also the away performance’s were good also

We got outplayed completely in Serbia too. Portugal could have been worse if they'd scored that early peno but to be fair we put in a good defensive shift so yeah, that was a better performance.

I absolutely agree seven points now will atone for today. But even allowing for the fact that we may have more room to play into in those games, I'm not seeing anything in our form under Kenny (or further back in fairness to him) to suggest we'll manage it.

Happy to be proven wrong of course!