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    Quote Originally Posted by sirhamish
    Bloody cheek - I'm off them 3 weels on Saturday.
    I'm still watching...

    Good man Hamish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    I'm still watching...

    Good man Hamish.

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    I mentioned this about you on another post PP - I know you're watching me and my smoking or ex smoking - not paranoid or anything. LOL
    Have had no cold turkey whatsoever - never deeply inhaled anyway - just shows you how addictive the bloody things are - I usually left most of the fag in the ashtray - what must it be like for those who inhale deeply??

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    Off them 10 weeks tomorrow, after going to the Allan Carr Clinic. So far so good - only time seriously close was after Buckfast consumption last week and that passed suprisingly quickly!

    Nicotine replacement therapy's don't work because you're still getting the nicotine. (and to answer my own question, the cigarette companies supply the manufacturer's of the patches etc).

    The scary ads just make smokers want to have a smoke. I doubt their any influence on a 15 or 16 year old kid trying to be cool. Silk Cut have used scary ads to make people reach for their cigs - FACT.

    There's no such thing as an occasional smoker/ weekend smoker etc. Ask anyone who claims to be able to leave, to leave them for good. If they don't need them, why bother? And every cig feeds you nicotine craving - "one last cigarette" is taking you further from getting over the addiction

    I personally think a few sociable J's is different to a 20-25 a day smoker. Makes up far less of their routine.

    Anto's right in the respect that it's out of your system in 5-7 days (usually - can be up to 30 though), but naive in the extreme to ignore the pschyological factors so flippantly....
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    A little knowledge truly is a dangerous thing. And completely wasted on you, it would seem.

    Come back with a doctoral certificate and I might, might just listen to you. I'm not holding my breath in waiting though...

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    did you know its impossible to hold your breath untill you die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    Off them 10 weeks tomorrow, after going to the Allan Carr Clinic. So far so good - only time seriously close was after Buckfast consumption last week and that passed suprisingly quickly!

    Nicotine replacement therapy's don't work because you're still getting the nicotine. (and to answer my own question, the cigarette companies supply the manufacturer's of the patches etc).

    The scary ads just make smokers want to have a smoke. I doubt their any influence on a 15 or 16 year old kid trying to be cool. Silk Cut have used scary ads to make people reach for their cigs - FACT.

    There's no such thing as an occasional smoker/ weekend smoker etc. Ask anyone who claims to be able to leave, to leave them for good. If they don't need them, why bother? And every cig feeds you nicotine craving - "one last cigarette" is taking you further from getting over the addiction

    I personally think a few sociable J's is different to a 20-25 a day smoker. Makes up far less of their routine.

    Anto's right in the respect that it's out of your system in 5-7 days (usually - can be up to 30 though), but naive in the extreme to ignore the pschyological factors so flippantly....
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    well done staying off them see it isnt as hard as this lot are making out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208
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    well done staying off them see it isnt as hard as this lot are making out .
    But he did what I did - Allen Carr's Easyway - and you accused me of having a crutch! Nor did I claim it was difficult to quit. I did it first time. You're chasing your own tail, me boyo...

    Consistency, young Anto, is the key to winning any argument. And you just lost yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208
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    well done staying off them see it isnt as hard as this lot are making out .
    Yeah - I mean it was only 2 years of trying before I booked into Allen Carr...
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    But he did what I did - Allen Carr's Easyway - and you accused me of having a crutch! Nor did I claim it was difficult to quit. I did it first time. You're chasing your own tail, me boyo...

    Consistency, young Anto, is the key to winning any argument. And you just lost yours.

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    and what does alan do ? he changes your way of thinking ! same as i suggested to do.
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    Let it go, sunshine, just let it go...

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    Nearly a week off them now . Read the Carr book yesterday. It certainly puts a quitting in a different perspective than other methods. I thought it was very good and feel alot more confident about stopping smoking after having read it. Next step is the course. Thanks for all the advise.
    "I'd rather play in front of a full house than an empty crowd" Johnny Giles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsy
    Next step is the course. Thanks for all the advise.
    Only go on the course if your smoking imo.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    so how is it going now you still off them ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208
    so how is it going now you still off them ???
    yep. Nearly a month now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsy
    yep. Nearly a month now
    well fair play to you !! . was it really that hard ?? or are you wondering what the fuss was about

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208
    well fair play to you !! . was it really that hard ?? or are you wondering what the fuss was about
    I am finding it easier this time around. I definitley think that the Allen Carr book was worth reading. I've tried many times before and found it hell. Early days yet but so far so good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsy
    I am finding it easier this time around. I definitley think that the Allen Carr book was worth reading. I've tried many times before and found it hell. Early days yet but so far so good
    the worst is over now .
    & bet your a lot better off both health wise and pocket wise !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsy
    I am finding it easier this time around. I definitley think that the Allen Carr book was worth reading. I've tried many times before and found it hell. Early days yet but so far so good
    You've broken the shackles alright. Well done to you Dotsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy

    There's no such thing as an occasional smoker/ weekend smoker etc. Ask
    I personally think a few sociable J's is different to a 20-25 a day smoker. Makes up far less of their routine.

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    I don't want to put this topic into dodgy ground but the few sociable Js is is my problem concerning giving up smoking. Have given up the fags before, usually lasting between 2 and 7 weeks. However, even a couple of draws of a J (even rolled using herbal baccy) and I'm craving again. I know the answer is to give up both but I'm not sure I'm ready for that even though I'm desperate to give up the fags. I suppose my question is, are there any ex smokers (and I mean proper 20 a dayers) who have managed to successfully give up and still occasionally partake of the occasional jamaican woodbine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davey
    I suppose my question is, are there any ex smokers (and I mean proper 20 a dayers) who have managed to successfully give up and still occasionally partake of the occasional jamaican woodbine?
    Oh yes indeed. I just lose the tobacco. Try a pipe - it may be easier.

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    Last edited by Plastic Paddy; 10/08/2005 at 5:36 AM.
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    PP, believe it or not I am a trained stop smoking adviser (i.e the medical world allowed me to prescribe NRT, what sort of world are we living in when I am let lose with any sort of medical pad .) I tend to agree with you about NRT, particularly the inhalers which I used. They would keep you thinking about smoking all the time so rather then breaking the psychological addiction you are, in fact, keeping it going.
    It is considered that NRT is better then cold turkey - 20% give up rate as opposed to 2% but both of these fall well sort of the 80/90% rate that you suggest Alan Carr + Hypnotherapy has, yet these types of methods are rarely mentioned in the Stop Smoking Advisor training. It does just seem like the pharmaceutical industry hitting upon another big money making scheme and gretting the NHS to ram it down people's throats.

    I lasted three months with NRT but now have been back on them for four months.
    Where am I now? I'm over here,
    I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.

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