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    Irish diaspora in Italy

    Thought it might be good to consolidate updates/discussion on our 4 Italian-based youngsters for next season: Zefi, Heffernan, Ebosele, Abankwah. Mods can feel free to merge somewhere else if not appropriate. Itís exciting though.

    It is difficult to get information on how our current crop are really doing this season given they havenít advanced to primavera (u19) level yet.

    From my review on available resources (not formed from having seen any games), Heffernan seems to be doing excellent. He is starting regularly for their u18s (a year up), has been part of a 3 man central defense and has also played right back. Milanís u18s have had a strong finish to the season with several clean sheets coinciding with Heffernanís starts. Hopefully he will get a permanent deal soon, anyone with insight here? He looks in an excellent position to start for their primavera side next season which would be good progress.

    Zefi has done well for their under 17s with a few goals and assists. Interestingly, Esposito appears to be their star striker, and has been appearing for their u18s too, seems a bit ahead of Zefi. Zefi has only made the bench once for u18s I think. Iím a bit surprised by Zefiís lack of advancement through the age groups as season progressed. I expect Iím reading a bit too much into it. I know thereís the usual sound bytes from his agent Carr that things are going great, he has even trained with seniors etc. Hopefully itís a matter of then managing his talent carefully and he will progress straight to their primavera side next season and bypass the u18s. On a side note, some people may recall Nolan had a star striker called Esposito as well during his Inter underage days who advanced quickly, I donít think they are related.

    Anyone with insight into current Udinese squad? Where will our guys fit in? Assume Abankwah will start with their primavera side? Ebosele an outside chance of establishing himself with first team? Watford loan as the cynics proposed?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    On a side note, some people may recall Nolan had a star striker called Esposito as well during his Inter underage days who advanced quickly, I donít think they are related.
    Theyíre brothers. 3 in total. The oldest, a midfielder, played in Tallaght against ireland u21 in November. The middle, a striker, is probably the star of the 3, heís on loan at Basel. And the third is Zefiís age.

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    Being honest, Italian football has a terrible record of promoting youth, Serie A is among the most conservative leagues for bringing through young players so these lads are up against it from the start.

    Does Heffernan even have a contract for next season yet, it was only a 6 month trial deal he was on I think? Ebosele has possibly only signed for Udinese as a cover for his real destination in time - Watford (same owners). Because Udinese are an overseas club they could sign him there cheaper than Watford could in terms of paying development fees etc. but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at Watford within a season or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Being honest, Italian football has a terrible record of promoting youth, Serie A is among the most conservative leagues for bringing through young players so these lads are up against it from the start.

    Does Heffernan even have a contract for next season yet, it was only a 6 month trial deal he was on I think? Ebosele has possibly only signed for Udinese as a cover for his real destination in time - Watford (same owners). Because Udinese are an overseas club they could sign him there cheaper than Watford could in terms of paying development fees etc. but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at Watford within a season or two.
    Also helps them get around financial fair play especially if playing in the Championship. Wouldn't say Ebosele will be over there six months before he's at Watford on loan. Wouldn't be shocked if he's brought back to Watford in the summer with them in the Championship.

    Similar with Abankwah. Unless he actually goes into the Udinese first team he'd be better off at Watford playing U23s than U19s in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Thought it might be good to consolidate updates/discussion on our 4 Italian-based youngsters for next season: Zefi, Heffernan, Ebosele, Abankwah. Mods can feel free to merge somewhere else if not appropriate. Itís exciting though.

    It is difficult to get information on how our current crop are really doing this season given they havenít advanced to primavera (u19) level yet.

    From my review on available resources (not formed from having seen any games), Heffernan seems to be doing excellent. He is starting regularly for their u18s (a year up), has been part of a 3 man central defense and has also played right back. Milanís u18s have had a strong finish to the season with several clean sheets coinciding with Heffernanís starts. Hopefully he will get a permanent deal soon, anyone with insight here? He looks in an excellent position to start for their primavera side next season which would be good progress.

    Zefi has done well for their under 17s with a few goals and assists. Interestingly, Esposito appears to be their star striker, and has been appearing for their u18s too, seems a bit ahead of Zefi. Zefi has only made the bench once for u18s I think. Iím a bit surprised by Zefiís lack of advancement through the age groups as season progressed. I expect Iím reading a bit too much into it. I know thereís the usual sound bytes from his agent Carr that things are going great, he has even trained with seniors etc. Hopefully itís a matter of then managing his talent carefully and he will progress straight to their primavera side next season and bypass the u18s. On a side note, some people may recall Nolan had a star striker called Esposito as well during his Inter underage days who advanced quickly, I donít think they are related.

    Anyone with insight into current Udinese squad? Where will our guys fit in? Assume Abankwah will start with their primavera side? Ebosele an outside chance of establishing himself with first team? Watford loan as the cynics proposed?!
    Zefi and Esposito play in different positions so I donít think the two are directly comparable in that regard

    From reading a-few reports from inter Twitter accounts supposedly they are managing Zefiís game time this season, apparently letting him spend his first season settling in.

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    Will say though Heffernan has done quite well, a regular in the AC Milan u18s team as a 16 year old (the youngest in the team).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAD View Post
    Will say though Heffernan has done quite well, a regular in the AC Milan u18s team as a 16 year old (the youngest in the team).
    He made his Primavera/U19 debut coming on at 85 minutes during their 4-2 win over Genoa at the weekend. Impressive. Still no word of whether heís getting a contract once loan finishesÖ

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    He made his Primavera/U19 debut coming on at 85 minutes during their 4-2 win over Genoa at the weekend. Impressive. Still no word of whether heís getting a contract once loan finishesÖ
    Clearly he is rated anyway, itís interesting because in Italy things are done differently to England letís say. In Italy apparently you are only allowed sign 3 foreign players for youíre academy (at-least thatís what I heard for Inter) so teams like AC Milan need to focus on quality and it could be possible that he misses out in narrow margins, although heís gone well so who knows. If he was in England he would definetly have signed as they donít really have much restrictions.

    One thing to remember is heís 18 next year, I wouldnít say itís impossible that he goes back to Cork City after this loan and get a full season of senior football, hopefully Premier division football, and then when he turns 18 go to England.

    No one really knows behind the scenes, I didnít find it odd from the beginning that this was a loan signing so it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

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