Quotefor those that don't want to go googling or looking on the UEFA site to see the names of the teams for each country, this livescore site has the country name in brackets:
http://www.soccerstand.com/
BATE now 5 up in the first half.
for those that don't want to go googling or looking on the UEFA site to see the names of the teams for each country, this livescore site has the country name in brackets:
http://www.soccerstand.com/
Good one actually I'm using
http://www.footienews.com/uefacupresults.html
but your one looks bettwer for europe anyway.
Now we back down to 40th placed again in the rankings belarus gone above us again
Updated after tonight's games. We're still in 40th with only Cork left. Belarus have two teams left, so it looks like 40th place next year.
Think this means if Cork or Derry win the league, they'll be unseeded in the CL, which would be a blow, but not exactly insurmountable. The UEFA Cup will be touch and go. However, if we can get another 1.5 next year, we'll be up to about 5.000 (assuming Cork get no points this year), and then be seeded in both competitions which would be a massive boost. If we get seeded, there's no reason we can't keep the seeding, get more draws like the last two years (and make more of them...) and get more glamour games. Can only be good for the league. Think the next three years, we're going to move up fairly quick, to be honest.
And hey, if Cork can get a win and a draw to get through the UEFA, and then get a draw in the First Round - happy days!
I think even 1 win for City this season may not be enough for CL seeding for ourselves or Derry in the 2006 CL.
However progression to the 1st round proper & even a draw there would ensure Cork City would get seeded.
Its hard to calculate though as a lot depends on whether teams with their own club ranking points win their leagues.
Its all up to City now .... doing well makes it easier next year ..... even more incentive to win this year.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
It's not a total disaster if Cork can't get seed for them or Derry in next year's CL. All the seeded sides in the 1st round are beatable by either of them if you ask me unless we have some Liverpool like situation again.
Despite Cork's fantastic result and performance no change in the seeding.
Belarus side MTZ-RIPO drew at home to Teplice and realistically between themselves and BATE they will pick up enough to keep ahead of us.
However the big incentive for Cork now is to get through to the first round. Any result in the first round would give Cork a club coefficient and most likely give them 5 years of seeding in either the champions league or UEFA cup.
Good result by Cork. We got the 1.666 that the league has been pushing for. It didnt seem that hard this year and even longford contributed something.
If we get the same points for the next 3 years we jump 10 placesthats pretty impressive IMO. Then the league is just 5 places off getting a by into the second round. But it all depends on the draw, we could get very tough opposition in the second round.
I dont know if Cork can get into the next round or not. As Richardson says, their chances are only about 50/50. A couple of draws in the next round and its another 1 to CCFC co-efficent and I dont know what it would add to Ireland co-efficent..
The problem however is that we got good results this year because Shels and Longford were both seeded. Our champions won't be seeded now unless Shels somehow win the league or Cork get through another round and get a result (eg at least a draw in one leg). Being unseeded means you get a tougher draw and it is much harder to get points.Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
Good result by Cork. We got the 1.666 that the league has been pushing for. It didnt seem that hard this year and even longford contributed something.
If we get the same points for the next 3 years we jump 10 places
I dont know if Cork can get into the next round or not. As Richardson says, their chances are only about 50/50. A couple of draws in the next round and its another 1 to CCFC co-efficent and I dont know what it would add to Ireland co-efficent..
Has anyone got the latest rankings? Berts site doesn't seem to be updated since the 6th?
i hate to be a realist but i cant see shels winning the league >< , there are too many problems with the club IMO. we havent been firing on all cylinders all season and i dont think we will start now.
A more realistic option is for CCFC to win the league and beat Durjgardens in Turners Cross in two weeks time. Thats still a tall order but hopefully we will all be in Europe and seeded next season.
So how much co-efficent points does CCFC have to make up so that the EL clubs are seeded next season ??
Most of the teams that are seeded in the first round of the Champions League and UEFA Cup qualifiers arent exactly world beaters anyway so it might not be that big of a loss.
Assuming Shels get into UEFA they will I think be seeded because of their club coefficient. Hopefully a City win in the home leg would then be sufficient to get the coefficient up to a level where the other UEFA participant (could still be CCFC) is also seeded.
The only hope now IMO of seeding in the CL is for Cork to get past Djurgarden and pick up some club points in the first round proper. If Derry win they will certainly be unseeded in the CL.
Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.
Longford were seeded in the UEFA this year, don't forget. I think the two Irish teams - even if Shels aren't one - will be borderline seeded. Possibly split like this year.
CL - we need to gain another two places or so, I think? A win for Cork in the First Round is needed realistically.
As you say the big thing is seeding. If we can get seeded and hold on to it, it makes a big difference in trying to pick up the points in the 1st round qualifier.
Were up to 35th in this but it doesnt take account of corks draw last night
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2009.html
Cork have another 1.5 co efficent points to get for seeding so they need to draw or win the next game followed by result that makes up the difference should they get into the 1st round proper.
If they could win against Djurgardens it would be fantastic. Still feet on the ground they could lose it shels style
Last edited by thejollyrodger; 12/08/2005 at 1:30 PM.
If Cork do get through you'd back them to at least pick up some kind of result in the next round, which would give them a club co-efficent and get them seeded if they win the league, wont it?
in a nutshell .. yes
1.5 co-effient points to get. Next round points are doubled so I really hope they make it through !! for shels benefit of course. speaking of shels .. we really have to make 2nd spot.
Not if they were to draw one of the top seeds. Can you see them getting a result against Roma, Sampdoria, Everton, Middlesborough, Bolton etc? Would be good draws for getting money but bad for a chance of getting through to the group stages.
On that point btw, Does anyone else think that getting to the group stages of the UEFA cup might be a more realistic target for Irish teams than getting to the Champions League groups?
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We got one off Lille
Keep in mind worst comes to worst and say they get hammered in the first leg the others could put out a reserve team in the second so they will get the co-efficent. I'd back them to get a result, not progress, but get a result.
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