QuoteThe team from Iceland lost 2-1 away to a team from Azerbaijan.
They both won away last week so I can't see them both losing. Lets hope so though.Originally Posted by GavinZac
we can jump them this round if longford & cork both win & Belorussia's teams lose
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The team from Iceland lost 2-1 away to a team from Azerbaijan.
They both won away last week so I can't see them both losing. Lets hope so though.
Iceland & Belarus have lost their CL teams so good chance to pass them now. Looks like eL will likely be very close to mid 30's countries for catching them in future seasons...
Roll on the good times!Code:37 Liechtenstein 0.500 1.000 0.000 2.000 1.000 4.500 1/ 1 38 Iceland 0.833 0.166 0.500 2.500 0.500 4.499 2/ 3 39 Belarus 0.750 1.166 0.666 0.500 0.833 3.915 2/ 3 40 Ireland 0.666 0.166 0.333 1.333 1.333 3.831 3/ 3
God
There's a few countries there in the mid 20's who could be set to take a fair coefficient hit over the next few years. Slovakia will lose 3.5 from 01/02 next year and their champions only won one leg of their tie and go on to face ****** in the next round. Slovenia who are going to lose 1.5 from 01/02 have had their champions knocked out too, though one of their UEFA Cup entrants only have to play a San Marino side and their other one has a bye to the 2nd round. However I reckon they're going to go down 0.5. Bosnia who are 30th had their champs knocked out by a side from Luxembourg (no side from there has won a tie in 42 years). Bosnia have a 3.0 which will disappear in a few years so they could be on the slide too. We've got to try and get over 2.0 this year and then every year consistently and we will rise. Next year we will lose a 0.666 which though is pathetic is still one of our better scores. However the next few years we'll shed some pathetic ones.
2007 and 2008 will basically be free years for us, as the scores we lose are worthless. So lets hope we start building up some European momentum!Cork and Longford winning now as well as a good home result (win!) for Shels against Steaua will have us reeling in the higher teams at a frantic pace. If we can get 7 games played by the end of next week, with no losses, and 6 (or 7!) wins, it would just be incredible!!
God
I think getting by Iceland is the immediate aim as based on UEFA's seeding system for the UEFA Cup, ie Northern, Central, Southern qualification groups, Iceland are our nearest competitor for seedings in the first qualifiy round. By my reckoning if we dont surpass Iceland's ranking score this year there is a strong likelihood that our representatives wont be seeded in next year's UEFA cup. Shelbourne, if they qualify for Europe next year, will be seeded based on their team coefficient but everyone else.....
We need to get by those Icelandic sheep-head eaters.
Assuming its Cork in the CL next year, are they likely to be seeded?
I'd imagine its possible to bypass Lichenstein aswell, results depending of course, but I'd expect Cork to at least challenege strongly for, if not qualify for, the UEFA 1st Round proper. There's at least 4 more games for us to play, probably 8 though in reality, with hopefully even more after that!
God
Yes. The champions league first qualifying round is divided into 10 seeded and 10 unseeded teams. Currently there are ten leagues that enter a team in the champion league ranked below us. I dont think any of those countries have a team that would have a higher team ranking than what Cork will have if they win the league. However UEFA is not particularly fond of Armenia and Kazakhstan so if their league champions are not "allowed" to enter the competition next year Cork could be unseeded depending on the coefficient score the league is able to build this year. That's why both Cork and Longford need to win their matches next week.
On the Bert Kassies site, you can see current standings for as far ahead as 2009, which only count this year and last year. We're currently 30th, though a couple of countries (Denmark, Poland, Switzerland, Bulgaria, etc.) have yet to play any games this year, though of course, we're not finished ourselves yet either. It's about as good a way as you have of looking into the future. In 2008, we're 38th, so once we get the three poor years out of the way (and assuming we continue to have the same success), we should start moving up a nice bit.
Whats interesting is if the country seedings on Bert's site went to 2010 we'd be 1st.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...ccoef2006.html
Well done shels last wednesday now its cork and longford turn next week and hopefully shels can get another win too that be class
Well, still unbeaten and another draw to the co-efficent with Cork and Longford hopefully adding to it tomorrow. We have now offically beaten last years effort co-efficent wise, we'll hopefully have topped the 2000/2001 with minimum five more games to come by tomorrow.
I can't speak for any other club but i think that assuming City make next round i think we are good for some more points no matter who we draw. Even when we couldn't get results away from home we usually get something from home games.
There is nobody in that draw Cork should fear, they should be looking at the first round proper. So hopefully alot more points to come.
Shels draw last night has moved us up ahead of Belarus in the ranking.
This is a key move as our champions are now in line to be seeded in next season's champions league again. This would depend on no team below them having a club coefficient.
However it is still very very tight. Both Belarus clubs have home games tonight against teams they've beaten away so Cork and Longford must at least match those results.
Note if Shels were to win the league they would most likely be seeded thanks to their club coefficient.
Yes just ahead of Belarus but now its up to Cork and Longford tonight to get 2 wins and push up to the Iceland and pass these to. then in the next round, then who knows!!!! Shels did ok last night and hopefully they might do something in the away leg - well at least they wont lose like ******!!!!
Good news as such
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Belarus side through but defeat means no coefficient points albeit chance in the next round.
BATE are 3-0 up in the first half so safe to say a win and a defeat tonight for Belarus. 2 teams left in europe.
Now come on Cork and Longford. We n eed both through and ideally a min of a draw each to ensure we remain ahead of Belarus. A couple of wins would give us nice breathing space.
I wonder do they realise in Belarus how avidly fans on the other side of Europe are watching a game between BATE and Torpedo Kutasi.
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