best of luck glentoran

**Troy.McClure** · 15/07/2005, 4:13 PM

Originally Posted by EnDai

Has any Glentoran fan seen the penalty repeated on TV? Please watch it, its stonewall.

Not as much as the red card for the elbow earlier

Just how he got a yellow for that I'll never know, its not like the ref missed it

Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

They'll never admit it, but the truth behind the dislike of Shelbourne is simply jealousy, thats all!

Hate to disappoint you but theres so much to it than that (even if it might be a small factor). Things like Olli� giving the Pats fans the 2 fingers a few years ago, it all builds up.

Surely even a lot of Shels supporters dont like Oily Ollie?

**glentoranfan** · 15/07/2005, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Definitely. Should have walked too. Ref probably gave him benefit of the doubt that there was a defender a few yards to his left and let him away with a yellow.

I know Leeper made a bad tackle and the penalty was a cert. Infact, I was surprised he did not walk. I made no attempt to defend Leeper.

The point I made was he made a howler, and give a penalty away, which a bishop could do. He might have give two away, but stopped seven or eight more.

Leeman rarely plays like that. It was a one off and no doubt he will show the form that made him player of the year last year and Ulster footballer of the year 2005. He is one of the most honest lads on the field.

**pineapple stu** · 15/07/2005, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by glentoranfan

I know Leeper made a bad tackle and the penalty was a cert. In fact, I was surprised he did not walk. I made no attempt to defend Leeper.

'Twas Lux Interior who was doubting the penalty, not you.

**glentoranfan** · 15/07/2005, 10:59 PM

Fair enough, my mistake

I am a Glenman and I am saying it was a penalty and maybe he should have walked. However, like I say, he rarely plays as bad as that is a honest guy.

**Lux Interior** · 16/07/2005, 7:30 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

'Twas Lux Interior who was doubting the penalty, not you.

Having not seen any television footage and being sat right in line with the incident, my view is that Crowe played for this, going down as if hit by a �10k fine and 6 point reduction.

The actions of the number 15 have maybe prejudiced this view

**pineapple stu** · 16/07/2005, 7:35 AM

Originally Posted by Lux Interior

Having not seen any television footage and being sat right in line with the incident, my view is that Crowe played for this, going down as if hit by a �10k fine and 6 point reduction.

Suppose he learned from McCAllion getting Byrne booked in the first half!

Tobe honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the new super(er)-fat Crowe found a burst of five yards too much for him and was about to keel over with exhaustion anyway, but it was a penalty.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 16/07/2005, 9:55 AM

Originally Posted by glentoranfan

I know Leeper made a bad tackle and the penalty was a cert. Infact, I was surprised he did not walk. I made no attempt to defend Leeper.

The point I made was he made a howler, and give a penalty away, which a bishop could do. He might have give two away, but stopped seven or eight more.

Leeman rarely plays like that. It was a one off and no doubt he will show the form that made him player of the year last year and Ulster footballer of the year 2005. He is one of the most honest lads on the field.

To be fair the lad had a good first half he blocked everything... shame about the second half

**Drumcondra Red** · 17/07/2005, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Troy.McClure

Hate to disappoint you but theres so much to it than that (even if it might be a small factor). Things like Olli� giving the Pats fans the 2 fingers a few years ago, it all builds up.

Surely even a lot of Shels supporters dont like Oily Ollie?

There is, but we just don't get as exasperated as others seem to, you just have to push him to the back of your mind, thats all!!!

**Anto McC** · 17/07/2005, 1:19 PM

Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

There is, but we just don't get as exasperated as others seem to, you just have to push him to the back of your mind, thats all!!!

OLLIE IS GOD in my eyes and will never do any wrong as far as i'm concerned,Don't mind Drums Red he's just telling you what you want to hear

**Drumcondra Red** · 17/07/2005, 5:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anto McC

OLLIE IS GOD in my eyes and will never do any wrong as far as i'm concerned,Don't mind Drums Red he's just telling you what you want to hear

He wouldn't let me off the bus for a slash the other day either!!!!

**Troy.McClure** · 17/07/2005, 6:39 PM

Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

There is, but we just don't get as exasperated as others seem to, you just have to push him to the back of your mind, thats all!!!

replace "to the back of your mind" with "off a really big clif" and I'd agree

**eurosaint** · 17/07/2005, 8:14 PM

As a Pats fan I am (and I know Im not alone) 110% behind the Glens for the second leg.They may not be match fit nor able to field a full strength 11 but if they can pull it off in the 2nd leg I will be jumping for joy.Not because I hate $hels (I do actually,total *******s) but because from top to bottom they are a decent honest club which is more than can be said for that shower of underhand/win at all costs *******

Either way an Irish club comes out of this with a win anyway so for the good of football lets hope the Glens do it.Look at it this way

1) glens win the tie and can ram it down their near neighbours throat forthe rest of the season

2) Shels win the tie and go on to dominate the transfer market for the next few years

**Slash/ED** · 17/07/2005, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by eurosaint

2) Shels win the tie and go on to dominate the transfer market for the next few years

From beating Glentoran alone? Okay....

**CollegeTillIDie** · 18/07/2005, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by eurosaint

As a Pats fan I am (and I know Im not alone) 110% behind the Glens for the second leg.They may not be match fit nor able to field a full strength 11 but if they can pull it off in the 2nd leg I will be jumping for joy.

Either way an Irish club comes out of this with a win anyway so for the good of football lets hope the Glens do it.Look at it this way

1) glens win the tie and can ram it down their near neighbours throat forthe rest of the season

And next time St. Pat's qualify for Europe they end up in a Pre-Preliminary Qualifying Round in Spitzbergen

**pete** · 18/07/2005, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

And next time St. Pat's qualify for Europe they end up in a Pre-Preliminary Qualifying Round in Spitzbergen

Do Spitsbergen have a team in top flight football? Tax Free shopping there too

**Gerrit** · 18/07/2005, 7:11 PM

Unfortunately (I am an arctic fanatic) they don't. The local teams are strictly amateur and not in the Norwegian league

Would be a great European trip...

And of course our pal here doesn't mind about the co-efficient, the chance of Pats playing in Europe anytime soon is not very big