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    As soon as Richard Dunne hung up his boots he was moaning in his media punditry about far too much hoof ball/caveman stuff being played under O'Neill - suppressed memory syndrome or just pure denial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    Manning? I'm not convinced, but I'm not ready to write him off yet either.

    That said, I would like a look at Bagan, and Dennis Cirkin if he can be convinced to jump the fence. I know he's only in League 1, but we have other players at that level, and Sunderland are a big club in any division which has to count for something.
    I’d say Manning’s problem is McClean’s attitude and commitment in everything he does around the camp. If Manning wants to be ahead of McClean he has to work harder than James and that isn’t possible. James wants to be in the 100 club.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post
    I’d say Manning’s problem is McClean’s attitude and commitment in everything he does around the camp. If Manning wants to be ahead of McClean he has to work harder than James and that isn’t possible. James wants to be in the 100 club.
    Without a doubt.. he'll run through walls for that century

    Anyone ever think he kind of reminds them of Kilbane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidetherock View Post
    Without a doubt.. he'll run through walls for that century

    Anyone ever think he kind of reminds them of Kilbane?
    I suppose. I never thought kilbane was always on the verge of something super crazy though. Look, I absolutely get that mcclean adds value in terms of team commitment, setting an example and to an extent scaring the pants off certain opposition players. I dont quite have a grip on that being offset by his awful first touch, variability of decision making and the fact he is gradually getting left behind by the passing game we are trying to play.

    That said, hes a fab impact sub and if he wants to hit 100 caps that is one route
    It does however look like SK is, at least when the opposition is light, playing a more attacking wing back scenario. I'd put money down if it was Portugal or some decent side Stevens would appear to start

    What is clear if you are a fringe player or playing down the leagues you need to have some sort of x factor to make the leap. Also lets face it, 30 years ago knight would be a premier league starter by now. It's just more crowded over there. Mcclean certainly has that x factor.. Knight, Bazanu, omo. Manning needs to show soon why he is a stand out player. So far so average sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamo kerry View Post
    I suppose. I never thought kilbane was always on the verge of something super crazy though. Look, I absolutely get that mcclean adds value in terms of team commitment, setting an example and to an extent scaring the pants off certain opposition players. I dont quite have a grip on that being offset by his awful first touch, variability of decision making and the fact he is gradually getting left behind by the passing game we are trying to play.
    His first touch can be brutal at times, but when he get the ball out of his feet he's capable of getting past defenders and putting in fabulous crosses. Much was made of the touch by Jason Knight that put the ball on a plate for Callum Robinson, but it was a peach of a ball in from McClean.
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    It was an absolute gem of a goal. One of the best we've ever scored imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    It was an absolute gem of a goal. One of the best we've ever scored imho.
    Agreed
    Good passing
    Team effort
    Skill
    Timing

    It had it all

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    I wouldn't agree on him being the best crosser though.

    He manages to hit the nearest (and often only) defender an extraoridnary amount of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    I wouldn't agree on him being the best crosser though.

    He manages to hit the nearest (and often only) defender an extraoridnary amount of the time.
    Agree, that was a brilliant cross for Knight, but it’s the exception rather than the rule. Nobody, can fault his commitment to the cause and the pride he feels representing his country, but he’s a mascot rather than a productive member of a team attempting to forge a new style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by third policeman View Post
    Agree, that was a brilliant cross for Knight, but it’s the exception rather than the rule. Nobody, can fault his commitment to the cause and the pride he feels representing his country, but he’s a mascot rather than a productive member of a team attempting to forge a new style.
    McClean isn't of this thread (the future), but far from being mockingly labelled a mascot, he was selected to start by the manager of this new style team and despite evident technical shortcomings in the game he was not subbed and delivered in the end, magnificently. He epitomises the pride and total commitment in representation and this next generation of young players are vying to be a part of that. That's what it's about.

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    Id totally agree.. he's no Messi but a much better baller than given credit for, has given us some brilliant nights (Vienna, Cardiff), and if the next gen give us his commitment and passion we'll be doing all right. barring injury he'll get his century over the next two years and he deserves that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidetherock View Post
    Id totally agree.. he's no Messi but a much better baller than given credit for, has given us some brilliant nights (Vienna, Cardiff), and if the next gen give us his commitment and passion we'll be doing all right. barring injury he'll get his century over the next two years and he deserves that
    How many is he on now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    How many is he on now ?
    88, could hit the century in March 2023

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    He'll hit the century within the next two years. There's no one coming through to replace either him or Stevens in the squad. Scales needs to get games for Celtic first, Manning has been converted to a CB by Russell Martin, and don't see anyone from the underage making that step up within the next two years.

    More likely to see someone step up at RWB as back up and Doherty moving across when everyone is fit. But even if that happened he'd still move back across when Coleman is out or playing RCB. Also feel McClean comes in before Stevens as second choice LWB if Doherty is first choice.

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    Would the most likely back 3 not be Duffy Egan Omobamidele/O Shea, meaning Coleman RWB and Doherty LWB?
    McClean still likely to be used as an impact sub but he may end up a few caps short of the 100
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