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    Bray and Cabo to merge?

    Heard this from Rovers conections in terms of maybe there would be space for SRFC ii again next year
    Also heard similar story from several Cabo people (full disclosure not officials)

    Lot of smoke and they say there is no smoke without fire.
    Would make sense Cabo have 1000 kids or thereabouts playing for them and Bray have no underage structure having just split with Joeys.

    Cabray FC???
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    Seems to be rumoured every pre-season in fairness.

    Not to say the stopped clock mightn't be right this year, but still.

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    Why the split with Bray and the schoolboy setup, have they looked for a new senior option either?

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    Money and people usual stuff. from what I hear

    Also joeys have gone backwards a lot over the last few years so aren't as attractive as they used to be for bray.

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    Negotiations begin for potential Cabinteely-Bray Wanderers merger (irishexaminer.com)

    I agree with your comment Stu that it has been mooted before but there seems to be momentum behind it this year.
    The LOI section of Cabo was quietly bought recently (a 75% share by Tony Richardson) with the remaining shares with the junior Club so the deal will go through quickly as the usual politics wont have to be listened too.

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    Interesting. I mean, in as much as mergers ever make sense, this one does make a bit of sense as Cabo really only joined the LoI for the sake of their underage teams, and of course Pat Devlin is there and has strong Bray connections. I know the ground-share thing was suggested before and Bray turned it down, but this seems different. Though this paragraph is strange -

    The timeline, as it stands, is the team being titled Bray/Cabinteely in 2022, Cabinteely/Bray in 2023 with a new brand encompassing the south Dublin/Wicklow region for 2024.
    Of course, without wanting to flog a dead horse, Cabo being in the league in the first place is symptomatic of the stupid structure we have, whereby effectively any club can decide they want to compete in the second tier of the national league, even if they don't have a ground or a senior squad (as in Cabo's case)

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    I don't see what's in it for Bray. Cabo have no assets, no supporters. They might have 1000 kids but 990 of them probably won't be good enough to play senior LOI. If they were to merge with anyone and change their name, it might make more sense to join with another Wicklow club or the Wicklow FA and try to get county-wide support. Wicklow Wanderers has a nice ring to it

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    Joey's would have to be better than what they've set up now, a scattering of clubs based in Wicklow like Ardmore Rovers and Enniskerry. These clubs most certainly won't provide LOI level players for Bray so it seems very shortsighted.
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    From scanning Twitter this morning this merger is not going down well with Bray fans…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucket View Post
    I don't see what's in it for Bray. Cabo have no assets, no supporters. They might have 1000 kids but 990 of them probably won't be good enough to play senior LOI. If they were to merge with anyone and change their name, it might make more sense to join with another Wicklow club or the Wicklow FA and try to get county-wide support. Wicklow Wanderers has a nice ring to it
    There is always this feeling that if the parents of those 1000 kids had a better offering than standing around a rugby pitch on the grass they would show up.
    Honestly i dont believe it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Heard this from Rovers conections in terms of maybe there would be space for SRFC ii again next year
    Even if the merger goes ahead, I think Rovers II might not be an automatic shoe-in for the place that becomes available, as there were a few applicants last year that weren't let in. The Irish Sea/Dublin County thing might be dead in the water, but what about Yola, St. Francis, or Limerick FC?

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    There are a few teams in the underage LOI that were permitted entry into the leagues on the basis that they would eventually step up into the senior ranks. It's time to call in that agreement now. Either step up or get out

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    Merger would definitely weigh in benefit more for Cabinteely more than Bray. Cabinteely are not a conveyor-belt for players going to UK and none of their homegrown LOI players have established themselves moving onto Premier Division teams, Cabinteely have been great for many players who were let go by the other Dublin teams to get the opportunity of first team experience that would be a loss to the league. I just can't see Cabinteely lasting in the First Division unless they have their own proper ground/facilities to play in to properly develop their own players and this proposed merger may well be their final play

    if Bray got promoted then there is definitely nothing in for them next season
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    You could argue that a cabray fc representing South County dublin / North Wicklow has greater commercial potential but I think its a leap to assume it would happen imo

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    Don't LOI clubs have to have underage link ups now (or is that just something the FAI engineered in Dublin) ?

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    Yes they have to have underage sections. Some dontheir own set ups , some others just link up with a local schoolboy team

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Yes they have to have underage sections. Some dontheir own set ups , some others just link up with a local schoolboy team
    So this would answer the 'what's in it for Bray' question, now that they don't have the St Josephs' link any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewayspasser View Post
    Even if the merger goes ahead, I think Rovers II might not be an automatic shoe-in for the place that becomes available, as there were a few applicants last year that weren't let in. The Irish Sea/Dublin County thing might be dead in the water, but what about Yola, St. Francis, or Limerick FC?
    Limerick aren't or weren't allowed enter an U19s team for next season. They'll be nowhere near senior level thank god.

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    Don't expect much traction behind any Yola application for next season. AFAIK, they've still never managed to field a team in any organised league and it's not believed that they would anything like the resources to put out Wexford's 7/8 teams at national level if they were granted the licence, including the 60 or so volunteers which facilitate this. Any notion of two clubs in Wexford getting licences seems very bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Limerick aren't or weren't allowed enter an U19s team for next season. They'll be nowhere near senior level thank god.
    Yeah, I think POS has burned his bridges when it comes to the LOI. Treaty's commendable showing in the league this season only makes his outfit less palatable.
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