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    Should the merger reach a conclusion, the FAI will seek to fill the vacancy in the First Division?

    Rumour that the FAI are also exploring a proposal to introduce a third tier.

    And who would they like to apply anyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    The highest ranking London club that doesn't appear to be named for their original neighbourhood is Corinthian-Casuals in the seventh tier. They came about after the merging of two teams, Corinthians and Casuals, neither of which was named for a georgraphic area as far as I can tell.

    There are a few other clubs who may not appear to be named for a place but in each case there was a physical location associated.
    Arsenal were originally Dial Square FC, which is a location in Woolwich. They changed their name to Royal Arsenal shortly after, and thats a building in the same area. They later became Woolwich Arsenal, and simply dropped the Woolwich part when they moved to North London. So their name is based on geography, they just moved away from the thing they were named for.
    Millwall is an area on the Isle of Dogs.
    Queens Park is a physical park.
    Crystal Palace is/was an exhibition hall with some dodgy looking dinosaurs.
    The English are an exception to the rule. There are only 3 clubs in the 92 team Football league which aren't named after a place (it was 2 until quite recently). That's fewer than the 10-team LOI Premier Division, where 4 clubs are not named after a place, and fewer again than the Irish league's top tier, where it's 5 of the 12 teams.

    Contrast England with Scotland - where 5 of its 12 Top tier teams, 7 of the 22 teams in the top 2 tiers, and 8 in total across the 42 team Scottish league are not named after places. A pretty high proportion. Or the Irish league, where 9 of the 36 teams in its top 3 tiers are not named after places. Higher still.

    In short - The English have an unusually low number of football teams not named after actual places.
    Last edited by EatYerGreens; 11/11/2021 at 4:45 PM.

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    And so it comes to pass -



    Another failure for the First Division unfortunately. Are Bray the only side to be elected to the league since 85 and not subsequently go bust?

    If the proposed third tier is where B teams top out, who's going to take the new FD space?

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    Does this mean that Rovers B will be taken off the shelf by the FAI to pad out the FD ?

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    I wish them well, but I can't help wonder, looking at the headline on the presser, if there shouldn't be an 'a' somewhere in 'new force'.
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    It's a Cabinteely takeover of Bray in all but name. Bad day for the league
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    Feel sorry for all the underage LOI teams 14s,15,17s etc as half of the players are being ditched now with joint training sessions to decide who to keep.
    They all had assumed they would be back in Jan for pre season with their own clubs.
    That's football though i suppose , an early lesson.
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    Cab Wanderers FC, any choice for a name? Might be a bit strange cheering Caaaab, Caaaab, Caaaaaaaaaaaa!

    Maybe Pat O'Sullivan will try and get Limerick FC back into the First Division again!
    Did'nt they participate in the Airtricity Legues at U14/15 & 17's in 2021?
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    Is the Carlisle Grounds to be sold now ? Or is it be the home venue for the new club.

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    Ca..Bra
    Might not go down well on the Southside

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    Always messy a merger. Who gains the place name of the club essentially inherits the club. If they called it Cabinteely Wanderers then Bray are all but gone.

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    I've no time for Bray, and plenty of it for Cabo, can't help but think this is a smart move by Bray, and a daft move by Cabinteely. Depends on what the name will end up being I guess.
    Whoever is in charge of the finances in Bray will be delighted with all those underage subscriptions coming in to boost the coffers. Shrewd move - Cabo the biggest schoolboy club in the country?
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    I thought St Joesphs had a slice of Bray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by total hoofball View Post
    It's a Cabinteely takeover of Bray in all but name. Bad day for the league
    It's literally a takeover as Cabo bought a majority stake in Bray. I can see why they might try to dress it up as a merger but it's not.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    So a free spot in the First Division, can it be filled by mid-February?, tight enough timescale which is often the case in the LoI. Losing the clubhouse facility at Blackrock rugby is a drawback I think, so hopefully their might be plans to improve the (legendry) Carlisle Ground, which really has great potential as soccer stadium. Wishing the new club well, be interesting if they can capture any level of support in the Dun Laoghaire area.

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    Id say they will keep the Bray name in it somewhere if only to keep the paying punters coming through the gates.
    Cabinteely sold the LOI section of the club to Richardson (the new Chairman of the merged entity) only in the last few months for a pittance as it was costing them money and the priority in Cabo has always been the Community teams not just the Elite.
    Makes sense to try to keep the Bray supporters and their cash on side so i expect a Bray/Cabo first year name , give people time to get used to the idea and then rebrand as Dublin South FC or something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    I've no time for Bray, and plenty of it for Cabo, can't help but think this is a smart move by Bray, and a daft move by Cabinteely. Depends on what the name will end up being I guess.
    Whoever is in charge of the finances in Bray will be delighted with all those underage subscriptions coming in to boost the coffers. Shrewd move - Cabo the biggest schoolboy club in the country?
    Re my above post the Junior club sold off the LOI part to avoid exactly that scenerio of the junior Subs paying wages for LOI.
    Re being a "daft move by Cabo" its more a move by the guy who bought the LOI section out the new Chairman , the biggest part of the club the junior club with 1000 ish players has no role in the merger.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 26/11/2021 at 12:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    Is the Carlisle Grounds to be sold now ? Or is it be the home venue for the new club.
    Venue for the new club. Cabo hardly have a venue to offer in fairness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Cab Wanderers FC, any choice for a name? Might be a bit strange cheering Caaaab, Caaaab, Caaaaaaaaaaaa!

    Maybe Pat O'Sullivan will try and get Limerick FC back into the First Division again!
    Did'nt they participate in the Airtricity Legues at U14/15 & 17's in 2021?
    Could be interesting if they drew certain LSL teams in the cup. They wouldn't be too thrilled to hear Cab were coming to visit.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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