Geopolitics is rarely, if ever, simple.
Yes, if NATO waded in in their own name, we'd all quite possibly be living out the film Threads right now. But that doesn't change the fact that, to all intents and purposes, it is NATO by proxy who are fighting Russia.
Again, most people can see that while the defence isn't being carried out in NATO's name, it's entirely reasonable to describe it as Ukraine/NATO. Especially in a flippant remark about Pat O'Sullivan.
Look, I will just say this. If anyone thinks this is a Russian/ NNATO war , I have some ivemectin to sell you.
It is demonstrably false claim to make, no matter how it 'feels' to you.
Well this is kinda is, Russia is at war with Ukraine. Supporting each side with weapons are NATO, Australia, Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Finland, Sweden, Belarus etc.
To put one actor on one side without mentioning the full picture infers bias, which I think Eat Your Greens picked up on.
'Ukraine/NATO v Russia war' is objectively an incorrect/bias statement.
Last edited by Buller; 24/01/2023 at 1:46 PM.
I enjoyed this off-topicness. So eh, that third tier huh?
These comments from Mark Scanlon sound quite reasonable. Though how he expects to get all stakeholders onside is the big problem that doesn't yet seem to have a solution.
I suspect we'll be having the same exact discussions in three years' time.
Edit - interesting comments on the BBC today from the owner of Darvel, the Scottish sixth-tier side who beat Aberdeen last night -
So an ambitious club have scope for improving themselves. Sounds the kind of stuff you'd want to encourage really. (I suspect what he wants "looked at" is that there's only one team relegated from the Lowland league and three regional champions from the tier below have to play off for one promotion spot, so Darvel didn't go up despite winning their league. It would make far more sense for each champion to be promoted and three teams to be relegated)We have the pyramid system now. Well done to the Scottish FA for agreeing to do this, but it now needs looked at. I think last night shows the strength of teams. We can be a force in Scottish football, but we need this pyramid system to work better for us and enable us to get up the leagues.
Last edited by pineapple stu; 24/01/2023 at 2:41 PM.
NATO FC to join the third tier.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Well we nearly had Irish Sea FC, so I guess why not?
No-one questioned that NATO are helping out in the defense of Ukraine. But that doesn't mean they're at war. And if accuracy re all who are involved was his thing, surely LTID should've said 'Russia/Iran/North Korea/Belarus' - as those countries are also supplying war arms and resources to Russia, just like NATO is ?
Let's call it out for what it was = a very cheap political point. Sad that some think it's cool and edgy to muddy the waters and go easy on Russia despite their horrendous activities.
Last edited by EatYerGreens; 25/01/2023 at 2:26 PM.
I'd say that listing Ukraine and NATO first in the 'Ukraine/NATO vs Russia' line places the emphasis on the former. Like it's them against Russia, when in reality this is all Russia's doing. It's them against everyone else (bar the mad mullahs, the North Korean tinpot, ad the Bealarussia puppet).
No matter what dancing on the head of a pin is done over this, there was no need to claim that NATO are at war with Russia. And to do so whilst ignoring the countries similarly lined-up on Russia's side is, as has been explained by Buller, clear evidence of one-sided bias. That it's a NATO proxy war - as if Ukraine are just a gormless puppet of the West - is the sort of nonsesense that apologists for Russia are very keen to spread.
Last edited by EatYerGreens; 25/01/2023 at 2:29 PM.
Limerick would veto them
LTID must be hankering after a return of the Limerick Soviet = Limerick Soviet - Wikipedia
Mods,
Can we set up a seperate forum where people with reading comprehension difficulties can discuss what they think I think about things?
Thanks in advance.
Yours in football etc
Is this the predictions thread?
What I would love to see this year is conclusive victories for Russia and Derry City in their domestic battles. My prediction however would probably have to be stalemate and 2nd place.
UCD bottom, Galway to come up and Rovers for the cup to round off.
TLDR the last two pages, but the gist is Kerry is joining NATO, right?
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
Kerry for samovars instead of Kerry for Sam?
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
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