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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Stu, the virus can be deadly but so can the vaccine. Some (particularly young people) have gotten miocarditis (pretty sure I spelled that wrong) which is fluid around the heart after getting the shot. Many others have died and the authorities in many countries will not release those figures. If we had full disclosure on all things related to the virus then perhaps people would be more willing to take the shot. In addition there are treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine which have proved really effective (Ivermectin reportedly stopped the virus dead in its tracks in some Indian provinces) in combating the virus. Yet the authorities keep this under wraps. Why? What is their motive?
    How can you know about figures that haven't been released?
    Last edited by tetsujin1979; 11/10/2021 at 10:15 AM.

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    Ah, the old "the vaccine kills people too" lark.

    With no evidence whatsoever of course, and with a completely unsubstantiated suggestion of conspiracy from the authorities.

    Give me patience...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Ah, the old "the vaccine kills people too" lark.

    With no evidence whatsoever of course, and with a completely unsubstantiated suggestion of conspiracy from the authorities.

    Give me patience...
    No, I think I'm the one that needs patience.

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    Waste of time even trying to discuss this.

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    You're not trying to discuss it.

    If you were trying to discuss it, you would be able to give some sort of evidence to support your view (like Tets and I have done for our views)

    But you've got nothing (just like CSAD and seanfhear before you)

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    Could mark12345 , Seanfear or CSAD just explain why 67% of people in hospital are unvaccinated but only 8% of the population are unvacinated.
    No prevarication , no deflection, no anecdotes about vaccine efficacy just explain this simple stat released by the HSE.

    Q silence or a new conspiracy theory about the vaccinated are being treated in a secret underground hospital in the Midlands to hide the numbers ...

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    Almost 50 ICU beds being occupied completely needlessly, taking away resources which could instead be used reducing waiting lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    In addition there are treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine which have proved really effective (Ivermectin reportedly stopped the virus dead in its tracks in some Indian provinces) in combating the virus. Yet the authorities keep this under wraps. Why? What is their motive?
    Here's the Indian Council of Medical Research saying that the evidence from trials and metastudies for either of the drugs you mentioned is far too weak to use them outside of clinical trials.
    https://www.icmr.gov.in/pdf/covid/te...VM_and_HCQ.pdf

    But hey, what do they know? They're only the best doctors in India reading extensive medical trial data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Stu, the virus can be deadly but so can the vaccine. Some (particularly young people) have gotten miocarditis (pretty sure I spelled that wrong) which is fluid around the heart after getting the shot. Many others have died and the authorities in many countries will not release those figures. If we had full disclosure on all things related to the virus then perhaps people would be more willing to take the shot. In addition there are treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine which have proved really effective (Ivermectin reportedly stopped the virus dead in its tracks in some Indian provinces) in combating the virus. Yet the authorities keep this under wraps. Why? What is their motive?
    One minute on Google and I found this:
    The Clalit-Beilinson study analyzed medical information from 2.5 million members of the healthcare provider who vaccinated with Pfizer. Some 54 cases of myocarditis were recorded, 76% of which were classified as mild, 22% intermediate. One case presented severe symptoms.
    Men were more likely to present the side effect than women (4.12 compared to 0.23 every 100,000 individuals). The group with the highest incidence was young men between 16-29, with 10.69 cases per 100,000 persons.
    https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wel...h-shows-681389

    One serious (I believe non-fatal) case in 2.5 million. Meanwhile COVID has killed 700,000 Americans and probably left 5-10 million with long-term health problems. If the United States had the same death rate as Canada (and our response wasn't perfect), then 400000-500000 Americans would still be alive. At this point, the actions of those who have opposed and defied lockdowns, masking and vaccines can be accurately described as Collective Mass Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Almost 50 ICU beds being occupied completely needlessly, taking away resources which could instead be used reducing waiting lists.
    Totally agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAD View Post
    I’ve given you some information to search now get to work, I found it so you can too.
    That's not how it works here. Read this post before you post in CA again. Next time you make a claim, back it up with evidence or don't post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    The Government has stuck their nose in to plenty else re; Covid. Why not the International football team ?
    Actually, sorry if slightly off topic but I think the government are too soft on this. This ****** of i had covid so I'm not getting a vaccine doesn't wash with me. You can catch it significantly easier if un -vaccinated and ot course pass it on to other people.

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    If these people treated the Facebook memes they get their info from with even half the level of suspicion they treat the world's medical community's advice with we'd be in much better shape.

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    The kind of people who say "I don't know what I'm putting in my body" while ordering a chicken fillet roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    The kind of people who say "I don't know what I'm putting in my body" while ordering a chicken fillet roll.
    Irony is those who inject whatever into their lips and foreheads, and going all out anti vaccination on their social media.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post
    Irony is those who inject whatever into their lips and foreheads, and going all out anti vaccination on their social media.
    I know, right? There was a protest at a shopping centre here in Toronto, where there was a vaccination clinic - the guy leading it looked like his body was 10% steroids and 10% cocaine and there was a woman behind him who looked like she was 10% botulism

    https://i2.wp.com/media.globalnews.c...y=70&strip=all
    Last edited by samhaydenjr; 12/10/2021 at 3:03 AM.

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    It a good point about the cocaine,
    the coke arrives in Ireland up a mules ass and that's straight up their noses.. no problemos !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    It a good point about the cocaine,
    the coke arrives in Ireland up a mules ass and that's straight up their noses.. no problemos !
    Put the Vax in the Cocaine !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Put the Vax in the Cocaine !
    now you're talking!
    We could put it in pints and big macs and girls knockers! we would have 0% unvaccinated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    now you're talking!
    We could put it in pints and big macs and girls knockers! we would have 0% unvaccinated
    Just get a People Person on the Job !

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