Ah, the old "the vaccine kills people too" lark.
With no evidence whatsoever of course, and with a completely unsubstantiated suggestion of conspiracy from the authorities.
Give me patience...
Waste of time even trying to discuss this.
You're not trying to discuss it.
If you were trying to discuss it, you would be able to give some sort of evidence to support your view (like Tets and I have done for our views)
But you've got nothing (just like CSAD and seanfhear before you)
Could mark12345 , Seanfear or CSAD just explain why 67% of people in hospital are unvaccinated but only 8% of the population are unvacinated.
No prevarication , no deflection, no anecdotes about vaccine efficacy just explain this simple stat released by the HSE.
Q silence or a new conspiracy theory about the vaccinated are being treated in a secret underground hospital in the Midlands to hide the numbers ...
Almost 50 ICU beds being occupied completely needlessly, taking away resources which could instead be used reducing waiting lists.
Here's the Indian Council of Medical Research saying that the evidence from trials and metastudies for either of the drugs you mentioned is far too weak to use them outside of clinical trials.
https://www.icmr.gov.in/pdf/covid/te...VM_and_HCQ.pdf
But hey, what do they know? They're only the best doctors in India reading extensive medical trial data.
You can't spell failure without FAI
One minute on Google and I found this:
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wel...h-shows-681389The Clalit-Beilinson study analyzed medical information from 2.5 million members of the healthcare provider who vaccinated with Pfizer. Some 54 cases of myocarditis were recorded, 76% of which were classified as mild, 22% intermediate. One case presented severe symptoms.
Men were more likely to present the side effect than women (4.12 compared to 0.23 every 100,000 individuals). The group with the highest incidence was young men between 16-29, with 10.69 cases per 100,000 persons.
One serious (I believe non-fatal) case in 2.5 million. Meanwhile COVID has killed 700,000 Americans and probably left 5-10 million with long-term health problems. If the United States had the same death rate as Canada (and our response wasn't perfect), then 400000-500000 Americans would still be alive. At this point, the actions of those who have opposed and defied lockdowns, masking and vaccines can be accurately described as Collective Mass Murder
Totally agree
That's not how it works here. Read this post before you post in CA again. Next time you make a claim, back it up with evidence or don't post it.
If these people treated the Facebook memes they get their info from with even half the level of suspicion they treat the world's medical community's advice with we'd be in much better shape.
The kind of people who say "I don't know what I'm putting in my body" while ordering a chicken fillet roll.
I know, right? There was a protest at a shopping centre here in Toronto, where there was a vaccination clinic - the guy leading it looked like his body was 10% steroids and 10% cocaine and there was a woman behind him who looked like she was 10% botulism
https://i2.wp.com/media.globalnews.c...y=70&strip=all
Last edited by samhaydenjr; 12/10/2021 at 2:03 AM.
It a good point about the cocaine,
the coke arrives in Ireland up a mules ass and that's straight up their noses.. no problemos !
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