Funny how the anti-vaxxers are either making points that have nothing to do with the thread, or providing no backup whatsoever for their points while ignoring the evidence others are giving.Originally Posted by seanfhear
todays figures 67% of people in hospital are unvacinated while the same bunch of gob****es represent only 8% of the population.
Even csad might have a problem dismissing those facts.
Although i know anecdote trumps facts with the lower IQ merchants
Well, the Irish management must not consider it all that important to be vaccinated when that management is picking so many players that are Not vaccinated ! !
Which, again, has nothing to do with the point being debated.
While sbgawa's post is exactly on the money.
But it does indicate that the Irish Management do not think that it is that important or they would not be picking players that are un-vaccinated.
You still haven't said why that's relevant to the overall societal discussion though.
Football team meeting for five days and functional society having to pay for hospital treatments are two different things, wouldn't you agree?
But neither the FAI or the Football Management Team consider that ~ quite a number of players have not been vaccinated that important = = Coz if they did they would not have picked these players.
Once again, your argument makes literally no sense.
The FAI are trying to pick a team to win a football match.
We are discussing societal issues such as clogging up hospital beds.
I'm not sure how you can't see the difference between these two really very different things.
Why have the Government not made its position clear to the FAI on such an important matter if they consider it such an important matter ?
It's again really hard to work out what your point is when you just repeat the same inane irrelevancy over and over again.
The Government has made its point clear - it strongly recommends vaccination and is doing everything it can to facilitate it. The discussion at the start of this thread - which you seem resolutely intent on ignoring - was on to what extent the Government can force vaccination on people, and it was broadly agreed that while it can't tie people down and administer vaccines, it can and should discriminate against non-vaccinated people.
But Robinson lives in England and is first and foremost English (let's be honest here), so there is a limited amount the Government can really do about him.
Once again - because I don't want you to think you can get away from the core point by waffling about irrelevant stuff - nothing you've said challenges the ignorance of Robinson's actions, nor the validity of people's complaints about his behaviour.
Your posts boil down to "it's not illegal, so it must be fine", which is juvenile at best. The government has bigger fish to fry than micromanaging team selection for the national football team. That would be banana republic nonsense.
The Government has stuck their nose in to plenty else re; Covid. Why not the International football team ?
You may recall games were played behind closed doors for quite a while of course.
In any event, the Government doesn't need to micromanage the FAI because UEFA and FIFA set the rules. You'll know plenty of those rules because we've fallen victim of too many of them. Aaron Connolly (I think) being ruled out of a game because he sat two inches too close to a confirmed case being the obvious one.
So you're wrong, seanfhear. In everything you've said
Because it's banned by FIFA?
Surely national emergencies can over-rule FIFA.
FIFA's rules were based on the fact that there was a worldwide emergency. Why would the Government get involved when appropriate action had already been taken by the appropriate body?
I wonder is "dumbass" still a suitable word on foot after all these years? Cos it's getting fairly close to having to be trotted out here.
You are getting a mite touchy there.
Another post without a point seanfhear.
One of these days you might make a point we can discuss
He appears to have vanished upon Tet's last graph regarding deaths in Sweden.
Stu, the virus can be deadly but so can the vaccine. Some (particularly young people) have gotten miocarditis (pretty sure I spelled that wrong) which is fluid around the heart after getting the shot. Many others have died and the authorities in many countries will not release those figures. If we had full disclosure on all things related to the virus then perhaps people would be more willing to take the shot. In addition there are treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine which have proved really effective (Ivermectin reportedly stopped the virus dead in its tracks in some Indian provinces) in combating the virus. Yet the authorities keep this under wraps. Why? What is their motive?
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