2012 Olympics

[Peadar]

P.S. Buy yourself a house in Stratford quickly....

I'll be wandering down on Saturday for a look.
Are you coming with me?

I think the UK/London will have problems with infrastructure delays.

I hope you're prescription of moany pils runs out soon, Pete.
All this negativity is giving me indegestion!

[paul_oshea]

P.S. Buy yourself a house in Stratford quickly....

was just saying that, wouldnt it be great to have a house out there now!!!!

be interesting to see how much they will have gone up in a day!!!

[paul_oshea]

Would manchester and their facillities not benefit, given they had the commonwealth games. ITs all good, plenty of work to be had now

yes they should, as should birmingham and sheffield, who also held the student games.

i think for the likes of sheffield its great news, as im sure most teams would like to stay outside of london for the preparations before the games commence.

northern france will benefit more than ireland imo, i mean the eurostar straight into the city, eurostart directly to brussels as well, where many teams can fly directly into, then stay around northern france and still be as little as a couple of hours from london, without the hub bub described earlier.

[Peadar]

why would anyone from the US, Canada, Germany etc need or want to come to Ireland in advance of the games ?

It's up to us to market ourselves to them and make Ireland an attractive base, away from the din in the build up to the games.
See the bigger picture here guys!

[ColinR]

there seems to have been a touch of the 'fai's in the voting:

from bbc.co.uk:

First round

London 22
Paris 21
Madrid 20
New York 19
Moscow 15 (eliminated)

Second round

Madrid 32
London 27
Paris 25
New York 16 (eliminated)

Third round

London 39
Paris 33
Madrid 31 (eliminated)

Fourth round

London 54
Paris 50 (eliminated)


madrid get 32 votes when there was four options in the second round, and then 31 votes when there was three options in the third round

[paul_oshea]

ok how do you propose this over the likes of france? taking into account demographics, geography, infasrtucture and economics?

geographic - far closer about 4/5ths.
infrastrucutre, planes, trains, boats, buses over in again 4/5ths of the time from ireland.
economics, which do you think is far cheaper????

[paul_oshea]

madrid get 32 votes when there was four options in the second round, and then 31 votes when there was only three options in the third round

you dnot have to win the first three rounds in order to win the overall bid.

[patsh]

there seems to have been a touch of the 'fai's in the voting:

from bbc.co.uk:

First round

London 22
Paris 21
Madrid 20
New York 19
Moscow 15 (eliminated)

Second round

Madrid 32
London 27
Paris 25
New York 16 (eliminated)

Third round

London 39
Paris 33
Madrid 31 (eliminated)

Fourth round

London 54
Paris 50 (eliminated)


madrid get 32 votes when there was four options in the second round, and then 31 votes when there was three options in the third round

Thats bizarre....

Someone voted for Madrid when there were 3 other choices, yet voted against them when the other choices were reduced to 2 of the same 3....

ah well,
Well Done London, would have preferred Paris as I think it is a far, far nicer city, no matter what your opinion is Peadar...

[Peadar]

Thats bizarre....

Someone voted for Madrid when there were 3 other choices, yet voted against them when the other choices were reduced to 2 of the same 3....

The people who voted for the city that was knocked out would have to vote differently in the next round.

[paul_oshea]

pa you still havent proved how it would be a better location over northern france?

[ColinR]

The people who voted for the city that was knocked out would have to vote differently in the next round.

yeah but you would expect the 32 that wanted madrid to get it in round 2, would still have wanted them to get it in round 3, but obviously one had a quick change of heart

[patsh]

The people who voted for the city that was knocked out would have to vote differently in the next round.

32 people voted for Madrid in the second round,
31 people voted for Madrid in the third round....

Why did 1 person think Madrid was good enough in the 2nd round, but the same bid was not good enough in the next round, the only thing changing being that there was one less choice to vote for???

[Peadar]

pa you still havent proved how it would be a better location over northern france?

Paul, you're some Lánger!
I don't have to prove anything!
If we had a bit of ambition about us we could sell Ireland as a pre games, training camp location.
In Athens, 11,099 athletes competed and there were 5,500 team officials from 202 countries. Are our enterprise skills so retarded that we can't entice 5 teams to establish a training camp in Ireland?

[paul_oshea]

Are our enterprise skills so retarded that we can't entice 5 teams to establish a training camp in Ireland?

yes but if france is another location, thats my point, why would they im asking you, based on the reasons i gave above. im not a langer, you just cant answer my question as northern france would get it well before ireland, if it came to that.

[Peadar]

northern france would get it well before ireland, if it came to that.

Choice, Paul. It's all about offering choice!
I appreciate that being from an area so rural and one which lacks even the most basic facilities, you can't feel enthusiastic about our ability to sell Ireland. Luckily there are some of us from Munster who know the quality of the product we have to offer and with 7 years to prepare, we could compete with France.
Don't argue with me on this, Paul, just accept that there are people with broad minds who can see the bigger picture.
You can call me a Tan or whatever you like, it will only prove my point.

[paul_oshea]

ok im offering you a choice, one with less travel time, more value for money and better training facilities, which are you gonig to take. this has nothing to do with broad minds or not, im giving facts, not a round about politicians answer to cover up answering a question.

[Dawn_Run]

Would you base yourself in France if you were playing Olympic soccer on THE MAZE prison site??

Maze site for Olympic soccer

[Peadar]

ok im offering you a choice, one with less travel time, more value for money and better training facilities.

What makes you think that France is going to be cheaper than Ireland?
How much time difference is there in a flight from America to Paris than America to Shannon?
Why do you think that France has enough high quality facilities to deal with the demand?
Does France have a smoking ban?

[Metrostars]

32 people voted for Madrid in the second round,
31 people voted for Madrid in the third round....

Why did 1 person think Madrid was good enough in the 2nd round, but the same bid was not good enough in the next round, the only thing changing being that there was one less choice to vote for???

Strange indeed. Also NYC's votes went from 19 in the first round to 16 in the second.

[patsh]

[size=2]From breakingnews.ie

[/size]The IOC’s decision was welcomed by Taoiseach Bertie Ahern who offered his country’s help in providing accommodation for competitors.

"The fact that the Olympic Games are coming to London will have positive repercussions right across these islands and I would like to assure my UK colleagues of any support or assistance that we can provide here in Ireland," he said.

"The Irish Government has invested heavily in the provision of high quality sports facilities, catering for a wide variety of sports, right across the country.

"Ireland can contribute enormously to the success of the London Games through the availability here of excellent competition and training facilities not just for our own athletes but also for competitors from countries throughout the world in the build-up to 2012."


The Bertie Bowl is back on the agenda!