bohs fc officially and publicly support the BSC

[Passive]

and also thought nothing of stealing a Bohs flag that was a memorial to a dead Bohs fan.

Jamie, you and me both know that flag was returned unharmed to BFC.

BTW, I find the seven page thread on gypoweb about this quite funny (funny because, as usual, threads on gypoweb start about one thing and end up in a bitter in-fight over who makes the nicest homemade cookies). Someone posted up the picture and, within the space of two or three posts, it had become an accepted fact that Rovers fans had broken into a locked room in Dalymount and stolen the flag (incidentally, does that mean that the Boy Scout Club are allowed keep their official merchandise in the Bohs office in Dalymount?). Best moment of the thread, however, came from the poster who claimed that there were several 400 Club members in the picture. Their faces are blacked out for ****s sake, how does he know?!

[Cosmo]

'The fact is that no-one here knows who owns the flag, and what, if anything, they've ever been guilty of'

Come off it, will ye. I dont know or care what whoever owns the flag did or didnt do. My problem is that it is a flag saying 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' (you know the casuals jamie, no? Maybe theyre a figment of my imagination. The casuals went into the drogheda end last season where there a load of young teenagers to start a row, they also gave a 14 year old drog a broken jaw or cheekbone this season, the bohs lad was in his late 20's) and that your club is being associated with the 'Bohs Soccer Casuals' by putting that on their website imo.

[Dublin12]

I too,like Pablo,find this whole episode very funny,it's harmless fun by a bunch of so called hooligans against another bunch of so called hooligans.It reminds me of an incident in the 70's when Ireland were playing Denmark at Lansdowne Rd,there was 1 Rovers face there,thought he was the biggest gangster in Dublin at the time,anyway somebody left a message for him(read out on tannoy system) that his grandma was outside the ground and would he come to collect her ,harmless fun,even he saw the funny side to it

[Roo69]

I'm didn't come on here to find out how much sympathy you have for the owner of the flag; I don't care about your sympathy levels, and it's not the discussion.

The fact is that no-one here knows who owns the flag, and what, if anything, they've ever been guilty of. Incidentally, to answer Macy's [repeated] point, Bohs as a club have in the past identified and banned fans [for finite time periods, if people disagree with this that is obviously another discussion, but the fact remains that Bohs do take action] for causing trouble in the past, and at least two Bohs fans tyhat I know of are currently banned indefinitely from the club on match nights or any other nights.

As an aside, and by way of my demonstrating a bit of consistency on the topic, plenty of Rovers fans have scarves with "SRFC Hooligans On Tour" on them, together with some kind of stupid looking SI-type compass, not in itself something that should cause any seasoned football fan to foam at the mouth with wounded sensibilities, if one were stolen it would still be property of a Rovers fan, and stealing anything from another fan IMO is not on.

In fairness though, how many other clubs would post such drival on there OFFICAL web site ? none. This was'nt about just a stolen flag, this is a childish dig at Rovers

[Jaime]

Jaime - Get over yourself, all you're doing is entertaining the rest of us. You don't know how the flag came to be in the hands of Rovers fans, all your talk about theft is just that - talk.

I happen to know what happened and when but I won't be losing any sleep over it. I was involved in getting the Diarmuid O'Leary flag returned and if this flag was of a similar ilk I'd do the same.

It's not - it's a BSC flag and as such will be treated as a Bohs hoolies flag. What else do you expect? And incidentally, your club's implicit backing of the BSC is staggering hypocrisy. We'll be treating all Bohs bleatings about 'Rovers hooligans' with contempt from now on. Oh, I forgot, we always did.

KOH

PS Hayser - Can I get a look at the DVD when Jaime's finished with it?

I've never assumed that there was any kind of criminal damage done to get the flag, I'd believe that the story about the keg room is probably true, as that flag isn't usually kept with the rest of the flags, so talk of Bohs "allowing the BSC to store their materials in Dalymount" or some such tripe, is stupid to anyone who knows the facts of flag storage at Dalymount, something few people here know.

In fairness, I could have pointed out that the Bohs/Celtic flag was returned unharmed; I know when and by who it was returned, so I'll ackowledge the fact; but it obvoiusly didn't suit the tilt of my post, and the point about the burning of the Starry Plough flag still stands undisputed.

Obviously most of you will agree that it's gone well beyond the stage of either club's fans giving a **** about the other club's "bleatings" (and this isn't a dig, but we don't even know who "your club" really is at the moment) by now, but as NH has acknowledged, my main point is that robbing stuff isn't on. I don't think anyone wants to read pages and pages of opening up old wounds and having old-style Bohs-Rovers banter, like we used to do before the SFRC Aimoo Stasi clamped down. Anyway, the old-style banter often ended with your name being put about, and me being threatened, so it's probably better to leave Bohs-Rovers hatred to the moral brigade who do it best, and gang up on Shels.

[BohDiddley]

I too,like Pablo,find this whole episode very funny,it's harmless fun by a bunch of so called hooligans against another bunch of so called hooligans.It reminds me of an incident in the 70's when Ireland were playing Denmark at Lansdowne Rd,there was 1 Rovers face there,thought he was the biggest gangster in Dublin at the time,anyway somebody left a message for him(read out on tannoy system) that his grandma was outside the ground and would he come to collect her ,harmless fun,even he saw the funny side to it

BTW, are you really Leeds?

[WeAreRovers]

Christ Jaime, I almost completely agree with that post. You're spot on about the relationship between both clubs. IMO it's at its lowest ebb ever (the fact that we don't really "exist" at the moment doesn't help) Neither set of fans believes the other and trust is non-existent. Again, our tenancy doesn't help matters either.

BTW You're still way out about where the flag came from. Which from our point of view makes it even funnier. But I take the rest of your points. However the whole palaver proves that Rovers/Bohs is miles out on its own when it comes to Irish sporting rivalries. Shels? Who the fook are they?

KOH

[ColinR]

However the whole palaver proves that Rovers/Bohs is miles out on its own when it comes to Irish sporting rivalries.

or that you simply have a lot of scummers attached to both clubs

[Drumcondra Red]

Christ Jaime, I almost completely agree with that post. You're spot on about the relationship between both clubs. IMO it's at its lowest ebb ever (the fact that we don't really "exist" at the moment doesn't help) Neither set of fans believes the other and trust is non-existent. Again, our tenancy doesn't help matters either.

BTW You're still way out about where the flag came from. Which from our point of view makes it even funnier. But I take the rest of your points. However the whole palaver proves that Rovers/Bohs is miles out on its own when it comes to Irish sporting rivalries. Shels? Who the fook are they?

KOH

So hooliganism constitutes a rivalry??? Good man! How did the Rovers hoolies get the boez hoolies flag then???

[Passive]

Jamie, stop being the voice of reason, you big girl's blouse

[Passive]

So hooliganism constitutes a rivalry??? Good man! How did the Rovers hoolies get the boez hoolies flag then???

What kind of hooligan uses the term "palaver" to describe internet abuse? Besides, the last time WAR got in a mill was in the '20s when the Jacobs crew tried to take the Shed

[Drumcondra Red]

What kind of hooligan uses the term "palaver" to describe internet abuse? Besides, the last time WAR got in a mill was in the '20s when the Jacobs crew tried to take the Shed

So nobody will say how the flag was obtained then??? Even though some people are claiming to know the full story???

[Passive]

So nobody will say how the flag was obtained then??? Even though some people are claiming to know the full story???

Well, my understanding - and I'm open to correction here - is that the two crews met up for a brandy in the gentleman's club to exchange business contacts, but the brandy went to the Boh's lads heads and they left their flag behind. As far as I know, the lads posing in the picture aren't Rovers fans, they are actually the staff of Patrick Guilbauds showing the flag on an internet lost and found site in the hope that the rightful owners will reclaim their property.

But I am open to correction.

[Jaime]

Best moment of the thread, however, came from the poster who claimed that there were several 400 Club members in the picture. Their faces are blacked out for ****s sake, how does he know?!

In fairness, it's hardly Panorama stuff, I can name plenty of them.

[WeAreRovers]

So nobody will say how the flag was obtained then??? Even though some people are claiming to know the full story???

How remiss of me. Hang on while I post it on the internet for the whole world to read.

KOH

[Drumcondra Red]

If you're big enough to gloat, you're big enough to tell the story!

[WeAreRovers]

What kind of hooligan uses the term "palaver" to describe internet abuse?

What? You've never heard the term smart casual? I believe Alan Partridge came up with it to describe Norwich City's oh so clever mob of book-reading, wine-tasting, Delia-loving casuals. I could be wrong though.

KOH

[Jaime]

What? You've never heard the term smart casual? I believe Alan Partridge came up with it to describe Norwich City's oh so clever mob of book-reading, wine-tasting, Delia-loving casuals. I could be wrong though.

KOH

Smart casual is the way forward, they love Oslos and Micropacers in Patrick Gilbaud's, although they won't allow Trimm Trabs.

[Slash/ED]

'The casuals went into the drogheda end last season where there a load of young teenagers to start a row, they also gave a 14 year old drog a broken jaw or cheekbone this season, the bohs lad was in his late 20's)

their f*cking trademark

[Pablo]

i must say lads, you are all taking this way to seriously. it was a class joke and the BSC are on the end of it!

i say go and rob one of their flags in return or come up with something original.

it beats kicking the daylights out of each other like you normally do!