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Thread: Republic of Ireland V Serbia - Tuesday, 7th September 2021 - 2022 World Cup Qualifier

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    We'll take it, I was thinking SK needed a break and he didn't half get it with the og. Bazunu what a display, Omo excellent too. We could and should have been on the end of a hiding against a fine Serbian team but that result might have cost them outright qualification?
    Yes we are limited but there are some good prospects coming up, trust the process, I'd much rather to have watched the game tonight than some of the horror shows thrown up in the last days of Trap and MON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    "Bazunu was excellent and kept us in it." Okay, does Bazunu play under any other Ireland manager? Does Randolph make all of those saves?
    Yes, Randolph makes those saves. Another day we lose 5-0 given those chances though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Bazunu and Omobamidele were brilliant tonight. If we are getting a 1-1 draw and those two are playing that well, that young and getting that experience then I'm happy. You get what you deserve in football. Serbia had chances but didn't convert them. The game still finished 1-1.
    So all those games where Kenny was using the missed chances excuse you were saying the same thing?

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    say what you like but one things for sure... sk and the team havnt lost the home crowd one bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    It was a very poor performance from us again, Serbia win this game very comfortably 9 times out of 10.

    The Serbian OG was hilarious, though. I laughed out loud at went that went in. If we were ever going to score, that was the only way it was going to happen.

    Bazunu was one of very few bright spots, but still almost cost us a couple of goals.
    Oh shut up. It certainly was not a very poor performance. Serbia are a better side than us, I don’t think anyone doubts that ? But we competed well with them at times, and never gave up. I think we deserved the point. I understand the criticism after Luxembourg and Azerbaijan, but some people seem determined to only see the negatives. And you can’t say the team aren’t playing for the manager either. Great effort tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA View Post
    So all those games where Kenny was using the missed chances excuse you were saying the same thing?
    Sorry, you won't draw me in. You can't impose that view on me. One is allowed to support Kenny without supporting everything he says or every decision he makes. I'm not into extremism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA View Post
    So all those games where Kenny was using the missed chances excuse you were saying the same thing?
    Was it yourself that said it’s only the result that matters and not the manner of the performance? You and/or a few of your ilk were spouting that after our performance against Portugal. Surely the same applies in reverse? Or from Serbia’s perspective…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Bazunu and Omobamidele were brilliant tonight. If we are getting a 1-1 draw and those two are playing that well, that young and getting that experience then I'm happy. You get what you deserve in football. Serbia had chances but didn't convert them. The game still finished 1-1.
    The adage is that a team is built first from the defence, at least we have that defence. Just need to fix the rest of our game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA View Post
    Yes, Randolph makes those saves. Another day we lose 5-0 given those chances though.
    On another day we get a penalty in Portugal to go 2 up, and the ref doesn’t add five minutes, and we take a couple of those chances against Azerbaijan to win comfortably. Works both ways you see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Sorry, you won't draw me in. You can't impose that view on me. One is allowed to support Kenny without supporting everything he says or every decision he makes. I'm not into extremism.
    If it's the result that matters, then the excuses previously used by Kenny should be brushed aside. That's the conclusion to your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    Was it yourself that said it’s only the result that matters and not the manner of the performance? You and/or a few of your ilk were spouting that after our performance against Portugal. Surely the same applies in reverse? Or from Serbia’s perspective…
    No. I didn't say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    The adage is that a team is built first from the defence, at least we have that defence. Just need to fix the rest of our game.
    Definitely went out to contain the Serbs with four central midfielders. I would also like to see a heatmap.for McClean and Doherty. I don't think it was particularly deep that they were but they did get pinned back for periods of Serbian pressure and Serbia were very good at pressurizing.

    Kenny needs to figure out how we can retain solidity in midfield but still stretch sides. Knight is probably integral to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post

    Just on a side note, Kenny was shaking Robinson’s hand afterward and Robinson didn’t seem too interested.
    Are there certain players who don’t respect him I wonder?
    Think you might be seeing what you want to see there. It was hardly Keane and McCarthy after the Dutch game in 2001. In fact I didn’t see anything off about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyD View Post
    On another day we get a penalty in Portugal to go 2 up, and the ref doesn’t add five minutes, and we take a couple of those chances against Azerbaijan to win comfortably. Works both ways you see.
    On another day Portugal win 4-1 you mean? Missed penalty, missed open goal, post.

    What's the excuses for the other 15 games under Kenny. What happened v Luxembourg? Why can't this tactical genius have us scoring more than a few goals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA View Post
    If it's the result that matters, then the excuses previously used by Kenny should be brushed aside. That's the conclusion to your point.
    Maybe, yes. But I don't necessarily believe that inexcusable defeat means he should be sacked so you can't lead me to what you feel is the natural (though biased) conclusion here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Serbia s chances were much more clear cut and well created than the so called chances we created on Saturday. I see nothing in tonight to make me think we coukdvtake tge game to a middle of the road side like a finland at home and actually control the game. What formation are we playing? 541 tonight with the 4 playing narrow all basically central midfield players with no one getting anywhere close to idah, how is that ever going to get you a chance of creating openings at home?
    Kenny has played more than one formation. 541 is a good formation to play agasides who will dominate possession - we played the same in Faro.

    I'd imagine we will revert to 4 3 3 against sides we will expect to have more possession against.
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    I just don't see any signs of improvement or progression at all under Kenny, that's the most damning indictment I can make of his tenure so far. What we saw tonight is no different to what we saw in the first couple of matches.

    We're ponderous, predictable and so very easy to play against. Even with 20 minutes to go in a match we had to win to keep our slim, slim qualification hopes alive and we were tapping the ball around at the back. It's dire to watch.

    What does Kenny send his team's out to do? Because I have no idea. The ball is slowly, and to no obvious purpose, knocked around amongst the back three, giving the oposition all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and mark our midfielders and forwards, played into a midfielder who's inevitably under pressure, and then the ball is either lost, hurriedly knocked back to one of the centre-halfs, or hit into one of the channels in a ball always favouring the opposition defence. Just awful.

    There's no urgency, no creativity, no moves that look like they've come off the training ground. And other than Duffy's height at corners, we carry absolutely no goal threat. Tonight's goal was simply a freak occurance. Just what does Kenny do with his players all week on the training pitch.

    We go into matches, seemingly, without any definitive game plan, we look too stretched out from front to back, with Idah often completely isolated. We often have three defenders, as well as the goalkeeper in close proximity in the penalty area, attempting to tap the ball around in a triangle, while the rest of the team is strung out across the park, the ball then often gets played back to Bazunu, who under pressure, then has to punt it long onto the head of one of the giant Serbian defenders. Honestly, what's the point?

    Is this the 'good' football we keep hearing so much about? Because from what I've seen of us we're one of the most boring teams to watch around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Maybe, yes. But I don't necessarily believe that inexcusable defeat means he should be sacked so you can't lead me to what you feel is the natural (though biased) conclusion here.
    To be honest, Kenny could lose every single game and there would be those who won't admit that he should be sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA View Post
    So all those games where Kenny was using the missed chances excuse you were saying the same thing?
    Even by my standards as a vocal critic of Kenny (and who wants him gone) you're coming across as very whiny.

    We put in a decent shift. Serbia were better for long periods but that's because they're a better team. When you get a result against a better team you're doing something right. Yes, they could have scored more, and yes, the goal was lucky, but so what, that's Serbia's problem. You take what you get from games.

    Positive in terms of the result, some very good individual performances, and team performance and belief in the last 10-15 minutes or so. Just a pity this is the last of the 3 games, and there isn't another home game 3 days from now.
    Last edited by osarusan; 07/09/2021 at 9:35 PM.

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    Matter what happens to kenny, and I've no confidence in him but we will be incredibly grateful for his introduction to Andrew Omobamidele. He is going to be a star. If I had a choice if being his agent or gavins or troys. I would puck him all day.long

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