Bosun Lawal M Fleetwood (loan from Celtic) b.2003

**Kingdom** · 24/01/2023, 10:50 AM

That's a quality post ES. That is what foot.ie should be about.
nice one.

**Fixer82** · 24/01/2023, 5:24 PM

Originally Posted by JR89

Nigeria. Most players descent African for us their parents came over from Nigeria.

Both parents from Nigeria. Would have no problem with him declaring for them. Totally get someone with parents playing for that country ( a la Kilbane, Breen etc.)

But hopefully he keeps going the way he is and does a job for us

**Poor Student** · 26/01/2023, 2:11 PM

Celtic's Bs are playing in the Premier League International Cup. He captained Celtic to a 2-2 draw with Leicester last night. Average age of 20 v 22, so there's good opportunities between the Challenge Cup, Glasgow Cup and International Cup to get a test above Lowland League level too this season.

**tetsujin1979** · 26/01/2023, 2:42 PM

Highlights on YouTube
Ben Quinn played too, Shane Flynn in midfield for Leicester

**Poor Student** · 26/01/2023, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Highlights on YouTube
Ben Quinn played too, Shane Flynn in midfield for Leicester

He was instrumental in that first goal with his foray out of defence and ball down the right.

**tommy_c12000** · 28/01/2023, 2:44 PM

Back to starring for the B team again, now that big Ange got his statistics up to 2 B team player senior team appearances for the season. Who’s next for a token few minutes at the end of another dead rubber Scottish premier league game, Ben Quinn? State-of-the-art player development

**seanfhear** · 28/01/2023, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Back to starring for the B team again, now that big Ange got his statistics up to 2 B team player senior team appearances for the season. Who’s next for a token few minutes at the end of another dead rubber Scottish premier league game, Ben Quinn? State-of-the-art player development

Maybe these players don't have any better offers than to go to Celtic ~ Just a thought.

It must be very competitive ( for the clubs ) for the best young players.

**Eirambler** · 28/01/2023, 3:12 PM

Really, unless they had no other offers at all...

Vata and Lawal could absolutely be at more suitable places for their development. In fairness Vata is a local lad and might hopefully move on soon if he's got ambition. Lawal, I suspect, followed the money as I can't see why he'd have gone up to Glasgow otherwise.

**CSAD** · 28/01/2023, 3:52 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Maybe these players don't have any better offers than to go to Celtic ~ Just a thought.

It must be very competitive ( for the clubs ) for the best young players.

Yeah I’m really sure that is the reason!

**seanfhear** · 28/01/2023, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by CSAD

Yeah I’m really sure that is the reason!

I assume if they had better offers than Celtic they would take the better offers.

Why would they go to Celtic if they had better offers ?

**John83** · 28/01/2023, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Back to starring for the B team again, now that big Ange got his statistics up to 2 B team player senior team appearances for the season. Who’s next for a token few minutes at the end of another dead rubber Scottish premier league game, Ben Quinn? State-of-the-art player development

**CSAD** · 28/01/2023, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

I assume if they had better offers than Celtic they would take the better offers.

Why would they go to Celtic if they had better offers ?

Because a lot of Irish players still think Celtic is relevant club and big move when in reality it’s neither which the rest of the world already knows, hopefully we catch up some day.

I guess Celtic are good at negotiating and advertising a plan for a player that they know very well they won’t honor.

**samhaydenjr** · 29/01/2023, 2:33 AM

Originally Posted by CSAD

Because a lot of Irish players still think Celtic is relevant club and big move when in reality it’s neither which the rest of the world already knows, hopefully we catch up some day.

I guess Celtic are good at negotiating and advertising a plan for a player that they know very well they won’t honor.

Well, I guess if you're eighteen and they show you the stadium, the trophy cabinet and a couple of videos of big European nights, your head might be turned

**Eirambler** · 29/01/2023, 6:48 AM

They are also known to pay well in terms of wages at that age group relative to other teams. If Celtic are offering a lad 4k a week and Hibs or Bolton or whoever are offering 1k, Hibs or Bolton is probably the better move for a player's career in terms of a route to first team football. But 4k a week is 200k a year and that, probably unsurprisingly, turns lads heads - and their parents' also.

**seanfhear** · 29/01/2023, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

They are also known to pay well in terms of wages at that age group relative to other teams. If Celtic are offering a lad 4k a week and Hibs or Bolton or whoever are offering 1k, Hibs or Bolton is probably the better move for a player's career in terms of a route to first team football. But 4k a week is 200k a year and that, probably unsurprisingly, turns lads heads - and their parents' also.

When you think of the actual chances of actually making it at any club anywhere then it may well come in to consideration alright. Especially if you are from a poor family.

**JR89** · 20/07/2023, 3:47 PM

Needs to get himself first team football this season. Can't be stuck in that pub league which Celtic B play in.

**Razors left peg** · 20/07/2023, 3:53 PM

Originally Posted by JR89

Needs to get himself first team football this season. Can't be stuck in that pub league which Celtic B play in.

Generally I hate the use of the term "Pub League" but in this case you are 100% right. Lawal has outgrown that now and needs proper mens football. IF hes not going to get a look in at 1st team level for Celtic then any loan would be good

**JR89** · 20/07/2023, 4:29 PM

Was always too good for that level. Watching some of their games last season and there were teams that looked worse than some junior teams here. Rangers have pulled their B team from that league after a vote for a new fifth tier conference league didn't happen.

Don't know whether Celtic are still entering a team but they can't be playing their best youth team prospects at that level. Have they ever tried partnering with a lower league team close to them and send a few players there each season on loan. Must be a handful of lower league teams in the Glasgow area.

**pineapple stu** · 20/07/2023, 4:38 PM

Originally Posted by JR89

Rangers have pulled their B team from that league after a vote for a new fifth tier conference league didn't happen.

Have to say I don't understand what the difference was between the Lowland League and the proposed new league.

Mix of Premier B teams and smaller regional sides in both I thought?

Rangers ditched their U19s a few years ago and thought they'd do better travelling Europe for friendlies instead. Wouldn't necessarily read too much into what they do on the development front

**JR89** · 20/07/2023, 5:10 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Have to say I don't understand what the difference was between the Lowland League and the proposed new league.

Mix of Premier B teams and smaller regional sides in both I thought?

Rangers ditched their U19s a few years ago and thought they'd do better travelling Europe for friendlies instead. Wouldn't necessarily read too much into what they do on the development front

Seems some of the SPL teams didn't want the extra cost of B teams and the lower league teams don't want B teams in the SPFL leagues full stop. New league would have seen B teams allowed promotion to League 2 and lower league teams are against it.