I see what you are saying but maybe they (setanta) choose to show dublin derbies on tv because people at home dont think it is safe to bring the kidsOriginally Posted by sullanefc
Not quite live, it's on delayed transmission. Setantas coverage starts after the final whistle.
I also can't go as I'll be at Oxygen by then, I'd say a few will be in the same boat.
I see what you are saying but maybe they (setanta) choose to show dublin derbies on tv because people at home dont think it is safe to bring the kidsOriginally Posted by sullanefc
I think Setanta should show City vs Bohs live and have full defereed coverage of Derry City vs Finn Harps or the other way around which ever. Have Shels a serect deal with Setanta that we don't know about.![]()
I wouldn't be surprised if they had. Shels are no longere the best team in the eircom league. CIty are.
Then come Derry.
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Definitely. The point about the grounds is valid, but is kind of moot for the likes of Derry v. Harps, when the ground will be fairly full anyway. Even crappy grounds look good when full. I think every effort should be made to feature at least every Premier Division team (not necessarily at home) for the simple reason of giving exposure to as many teams as possible and giving them the benefits of extra sponsorship opportunities, etc. to avoid the top teams getting further ahead.Originally Posted by Rebal Boy
Obviosuly fair dues to the stations for showing this level of interest, and obviously the top teams should be shown more often, but there's no excuse for not mixing things around a bit. I think the recent Cup games - the likes of the finals and the semis, some of which had First Division teams in them and many of which had lower teams in them - shows that these games can be just as good as Dublin derbies.
Setanta are not only showing Shels games. They showed the Pats-Drogheda game recently, but even though they have a poor fan base, Shels have earned the right to have their games shown. They are unique as they are a) the current champions, and b) the best known club with barstoolers after their European achievements last season.Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
Except for the derbies, games in Dublin rarely get big crowds, as there are 4 clubs competing for support. Cork, on the other hand, is a one-club city. If there were several clubs in Cork, they wouldn't be getting 6-7,000 for home games.
Alternatively, there are clubs like er,...UCD that they could show!!![]()
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Ok, mainly Shels games soOriginally Posted by mypost
The 'right to have their games shown'???but even though they have a poor fan base, Shels have earned the right to have their games shown.
a) Currently they have religation formThey are unique as they are a) the current champions, and b) the best known club with barstoolers after their European achievements last season.
b) Rovers are the most recognisable club (after all, most Dublin barstoolers used to follow Rovers when they were in Miltown)
And not even then sometimes!Except for the derbies, games in Dublin rarely get big crowds,
Ya, but because Dublin is more than 4 times bigger than Cork, that rules out that arguementas there are 4 clubs competing for support. Cork, on the other hand, is a one-club city. If there were several clubs in Cork, they wouldn't be getting 6-7,000 for home games.
Well, if they were playing... ShelsAlternatively, there are clubs like er,...UCD that they could show!!![]()
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
This is unreal. A TV station finally takes the eL seriously and yet all the Cork Sh!tty fans find a way to gripe about it!
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I thought it was a good move for Setanta to show Shels v Cork City live on that monday as might have encouraged more subscriptions in Cork.
Most people in Dublin get Setanta included in NTL subscription so not likely to encourage much extra subscribers.
Overall i think Setanta are just lazy & are going for easy local option. If you look that their summer schedule is feck all live sport so IMO they are showing more games as they are desparate to fill schedule.
I would guess Cork hve better support than Shels.Originally Posted by Shelsman
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I suspect so too, but am not complaining! Besides, the quality of some of the games ( and goals ) has been very good.Originally Posted by pete
Plus, Shels always lose in front of the cameras, I'd've thought you lot would be delighted! You can thank Setanta if you win the league![]()
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Shels are second in the league. They had a bad patch, but it's not relegation form. Shels don't know the meaning of the word "relegation".Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
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No, it doesn't actually, it reinforces it. 6-7,000 people go to games in Cork, but not much more than 10,000 people go to games in Dublin. The Dublin area is a lot smaller than the Cork one, and 4 clubs are competing for support in Dublin. That's why there are poor crowds. If it was a one city team, they would get far bigger crowds at games.Ya, but because Dublin is more than 4 times bigger than Cork, that rules out that arguement.
My only gripe about Setanta is that they show live, or deferred games while most of the other games are going on also, or are just finished. Their live games should be on a Saturday evening, when more people can watch them.
Setanta are scheduled to show the Rovers-Derry game. But as Rovers could face a winding up order earlier in the day, there is a serious risk of the game not going ahead at all.![]()
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Rovers - Derry live on Setanta this Friday @ 7:30.![]()
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Originally Posted by mypost
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The city of Dublin has a population of over a million and is much, much bigger in area than Cork, or did you not know that???![]()
Really ? So what happened to you in 1985 - the very first time that relegation was introduced into Irish football ? I'll admit that most of the PARENTS of your fans now probably weren't even born then, but surely falling at the first hurdle in Irish football should be a bad enough memory to see through any collective amnesia...?Originally Posted by mypost
Just out of curiousity, let's see which of the other big clubs in the league have to-date ever been relegated :
Cork..? No.
Derry...? No - though we did manage to end-up in a superb play-off once.
Bohs - came close, but no.
Rovers - no (though this season is looking a bit ominous).
St Pat ? - no.
Fancy that - seems like only Shels of the 'big' clubs in the league have ever been relegated. And at the very first time of asking as well ! Maybe Shels fans should have a better understanding of the word 'relegation'....![]()
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At last - a game not involving Shels !Originally Posted by kevincronin2000
But STILL one played in Dublin ! Why ??? I know this week's fixtures aren't great overall, but surely Drogs v Cork is the plum tie of the series ? Louth is hardly far from Ath Cliath.... ?
This pretty much confirms what we all know - Setanta are just lazy mutha feckas......
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well setanta do seem to like the friday night slot, and with our game being moved to sunday, it was very unlikely that they would show it
True.Originally Posted by EnDai
It could also be the end of your title illusions for 2005 if you fail to beat Longford on Friday, which would be of equal historical note ! Hey - maybe that's why Setanta have been covering so many Shels games of-late....?![]()
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