1 - Which is best? Anecdotal evidence or fact as seen by those present.
2 - Bad grammar eh? Well, slap my wrist!
I presume you're taking the
p!$$. Well, I say, "Good for you".
Of course, it is advisable that in making such statment, one might consider the feedback, should there be grammatical mistakes in your posts, which, I'm afraid, there are. I presume, then, that you have no respect for yourself given that comment you made above.
In any case, have I not given you a fine number of noun modifiers, punctuation a-plenty and a selection of the nicest multisyllabic words to accompany them. I do, very rarely, use "your" for "you're" but I am sure wou will have noticed, I have used "you're" in the correct fashion on most occasions. By the way, "as" and "well" - creating space between words is also a grammatical must. Don't be too hard on yourself, now.
I'll give you a chance to edit your grammar mistakes out if you promise to edit out that silly comment about "no respect. Even in attempted jest it sounded..........whooooooops.......elitest.
Damn glad you may not have played much football - I'd hate to see your "og" numbers.
3 - So you do not trust the Observer? Facts please. No anecdotes. Maybe because it's rugby writers don't cheerlead makes you uncomfortable. I noted your opinion regarding Michael Moore and now the Observer. Pattern developing here.
4. Did you not see the attempts by players to save that Cameroon player a couple of years ago. In any case, what are you saying here? Are you implying that footballers would not assist if a player was in a life threatening condition.?
5.I accept your closeness and sensitivity to the situation. Repeat, I merely cited the efforts to absolve rugby from any connection to the entire, repeat, entire, incident. Why was this necessary?? Why did they even think of doing it? Ask yourself those questions and think why they felt it necessary to do so.
6. I read the Sunday Times but prefer the Observer as, in my opinion, and it's only my opinion, it has better analysis than the Times. Tom English is dreadful and not on the same level as Butler.
Let me try and put it simply. If a country has an elitest government, educational system, social system etc and adopts a sport which becomes part of, and contributes to, that entire system, then, should you be surprised if those brought up in that elitest system might view other races as inferior and regard theiir lives as of less or no value.
I'm getting sick making the point that we are referring to some, not all, players in either code which is why I gave examples. Who said anything about "all". YOU DID.
If you create a monstrous state and associate with that state, whether in sport or business, can you be surprised that depraved behaviour will follow. Whether you like it ot not, rugby was a major part of the SA regime, took its cues from that regime and many acted accordingly. You cannot dissemble their jobs etc from the entire picture but these guys who murdered were members of a rugby club, not a farmers club, or Golf club, and acted in unison after drinking at the rugby club.
I'm sure the families of the kid murdered will agree concerning the tenuos nature. Yeah, right.
Fact -many SA rugby players WERE racist and boasted about it. There is a video of a Lions tour to SA where you can hear those clowns speak. As my "kaffir" example above mentioned, some still are. Why was the SARFU criticised recently for not making serious attempts to promote the game in the non white population?
Much of my data is obtained from the Guardian/Observer and I also follow these stories up with internet checks of local media to verify any stories of a controversial nature. They were absolutely correct as I found.
Don'y lambast the Observer unless you give me facts about its failings.
Football IS a bigger sport - period. Are you even implyng rugby is even close to soccer's popularity. If you do, then you live in la-la land.
My point was that football's dark side is regularly aired (no problem with that) while a sport which gets more than its fair share of coverage gets nearly always positive coverage. Question, if a bunch of footballers had hunted a guy and murdered him, don't you feel that it would have got attention. 120,000 football fans tried to get entry into a 60,000 seater stadium in SA a year or so ago. Sadly, many died in the crush. RTE had it. The papers had it. The UK media had it.
SA football/tragedy - mentioned. SA rugby/tragedy - not mentioned.
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