QuoteThree goals in his previous three games I think says it all about Tony Mac's contributions to the club this season!Originally Posted by el tk
Well you are part of the reason the crowd was so pathetic by your absence and yes the weather was cat!517 is shocking! Got 640 last year in the First Division!
Was the weather that bad? 'Twas lovely up in Cavan all weekend!
Damo was given compassionate leave by Pete Mahon - it was well-documented (UCD website, the Mirror, Aertel), so I'm amazed the UCD committee member didn't get wind of it!!
Five goals in a UCD-Bray game though - that's the most ever (only equalled by the League Cup game, when if Barry Andrews hadn't been playing, there'd only have been two goals...). Be thankful for something!
Still, seven games unbeaten now, eleven points off the bottom, finally beating teams in the bottom half and getting better all the time, it seems. Got to be happy with that.
Incidentally, Brian de Salvo on RTÉ radio described Paul Whitmarsh as like "Paul Doolin on a bad hair day"!
Three goals in his previous three games I think says it all about Tony Mac's contributions to the club this season!
I take it by this your none too impressed with our captain on a regular basis?
Easy knowing you weren't at the game!
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
I wasn't at the match but i was delighted to see Pat McWalther get the two winning goals. Although ive been at very few of the matches this season i still think McWalther is the most underated player on the UCD team.
His workrate and movement are both excellent and he does all the simple things well. The only thing lacking from his game in recent months has been a few goals so it was great to see him address that the other night.
It must have been like rubbing salt into Bray wounds that it was the two wicklow lads that got the goals for ucd.
Where you start is not as important as where you finish!!!!
No really, the boys who scored has no connections with Bray at all so there was it was'nt like Robbie Doyle, Jason Byrne or Paul Keegan scoring against us.
I completely agree with you. He's a fierce hard worker. I'm still not sure what his best position is though.
Precisely, he's tall but he doesn't get up to head the ball, he's not an inspirational player who fires up others, at times he just lets the game go right past him without getting involved.I take it by this your none too impressed with our captain on a regular basis?
Eh, Tony Mac? Scored 2 headers this year already from midfield. He wins every header that comes near him & keeps the team going when they're on the back foot.
Anything bad to be said about Tony's aerial ability or inspiration to the team is just not right.
"I always likened him to a Rolls Royce. You just used him once a week & he'd be flawless"
Townsend on McGrath
Definitely up front - scores more from there and creates far more problems with his runs.
Maybe, but hey - rather a poor 3-2 win than a poor 1-0 defeat! Still, every result in the second round of matches has been at least as good as in the first round...if we can start beating the lower teams, then, with our record against the higher teams so far...
First of Tony is not that good at winning headers, that's why the experiment with him at centre back a few years back was ended. For a tall bloke he's got great footwork although I still haven't been overly impressed this season.
As for Pat, yes he did well scoring the too goals the other night but we are still talking about a first division striker and certainly not a Premier division winger. Defending on the night was woeful and it showed.
While Whitmarsh was useful against a disinterested (albeit near full strength0 rovers the sheer inability to match a side playing at Bray's pace (even with defending that bad) showed him up big time.
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I don't know. I think I am with Colie on Tony Mac. I've seen people here before say he doesn't win much headers but he seems to be winning them any time I am there. I think the difference was telling when he was in centre back this season, not because the defending was poor but because his absence was sorely missed in midfield. He seems to break down the opposition attack and intercepts balls. He doesn't seem to be the greatest at driving the attack forward but I reckon he needs a partner who will run beyond the forwards to link up midfield and attack.
Think that's not far off alright. He seems to get in a lot of tackles and breaks play up and can run with the ball when he wants!
Think Whitmarsh is still getting up to match fitness - playing with Belgrove, he'd presumably be out of season before being signed last week (the U-21s game against Garda was his debut). Seem to remember Derek Swan being the exact same! Would give him some time yet.
The point on Paul Byrne is true as well though - he wins a ridiculous amount of headers when he's up front!
I know this might sound blasphemous as he sounds like a cult figure but who was Derek Swan? Keep in mind I am only a recent proper supporter.
The oldest man since sliced bread. He came out of retirement a while back to play a season or two with UCD.
We even had special hats comissioned for the occasion.
Derek Swan began his eircom league career with Home Farm in the mid 1980's and moved to Bohemians. He became a bit of a hero at Dalymount ending up top scorer for the club a number of times. Port Vale pounced to sign him and he spent a season or two over there. Came home and was signed by Shamrock Rovers for a while. A brief spell North of the border with Newry (I think this is all from memory folks) followed and then he rejoined Bohs. He then retired.
Martin Moran coaxed him out of retirement towards the end of 2000 and he got 5 League goals for us in his brief spell at Belfield before retiring for Good at the end of the 2000/2001 Season. He returned to his dayjob in behind the scenes technical type stuff for RTE.
During his brief time at Belfield he became a firm favourite.. a UCD striker who scores consistently....
Ninho there's only Swan-inho there's only Swan-inho there's only Swan-inho
Don't think those two quite go together! He scored seven goals in 22 games all told (including one in the League Cup and one in the FAI Cup). As goals per game rates go, it's actually one of the best in a UCD jersey - per my stats (which have gaps in them before 1998 admittedly) only behind Paul Whitmarsh, Paul Byrne and Willie, Robbie and Derek Doyle. You may note that three of them have hardly played for us at all, of course...!he got 5 League goals...a UCD striker who scores consistently....
Incidentally, for a photo, go to the old UCD Supporters' website. He's somewhere in the first photo...
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