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    Michelle Smith

    Apparently she did very well in a poll for the "Greatest Irish Woman of All Time". I remember when someone in our office oganised a congratulatory fax after she won the medals, I refused to sign it.

    She still has the medals and nothing has ever been proven so it's a difficult one but I still wouldn't vote for her in any poll.

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    Can I ask why you refused to sign it.
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom
    Can I ask why you refused to sign it.
    No pen?
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    What I mean is/was - she was never found guilty of anything. If she wasn't married to that fool there would be no problem.
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom
    Can I ask why you refused to sign it.
    I just didn't believe that she could improve so much in such a short space of time. So I wasn't sure and didn't want to sign something and then feel a right fool if it came to light she was cheating.

    I know innocent until proven guilty. I enjoyed the victories just as I enjoyed Cian O'Connor's win at the time but I think subsequent events have tainted Michelle's wins.

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    It's the olympics - every medal is tainted imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    It's the olympics - every medal is tainted imo.
    I thought we were safe with a horse though (Cian O'Connor's nag). I sat through a lot of that and was thrilled that we won and got a bit emotional when the Soldier's Song was played and what happens next ? We hear that the horse is a crack addict . Sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom
    What I mean is/was - she was never found guilty of anything. If she wasn't married to that fool there would be no problem.
    Has it not been categorically established that she interferred with the samples?
    That can only lead to one question - why?
    which in turn can only lead to one answer - there was something in the sample she didn't want the testers to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan
    I thought we were safe with a horse though (Cian O'Connor's nag).
    I see the vet is after getting stung for tax evasion now...!

    Rovers having an effect on South Dublin Council already too!

    (May want to move this to a separate thread, incidentally...just fitted in with the O'Connor mention.)

    From Aertel...

    173 NAMES PUBLISHED BY COMMISSION
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    173 people have had their names published after they made settlements with the Revenue Commissioners totalling E21 million.

    The bulk of the money was paid up following an investigation into bogus non-resident account holders who handed over E14 million.

    Among the names was show jumper Cian O'Connor's vet James Sheeran and South Dublin County Council.

    In a statement, South Dublin County Council said the under-declaration of VAT was not intentional and a settlement has been paid in full.

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    Didn't Michelle carry her husband over the threshold of their new house when they got married, instead of him carrying her?!!! The powers that be didn't catch that one,huh?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
    Has it not been categorically established that she interferred with the samples?
    That can only lead to one question - why?
    which in turn can only lead to one answer - there was something in the sample she didn't want the testers to find.
    Yea, whiskey! She didnt want people to know she had a drink problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
    Has it not been categorically established that she interferred with the samples?
    That can only lead to one question - why?
    which in turn can only lead to one answer - there was something in the sample she didn't want the testers to find.

    She was tested repeatedly at the Olympics and at the European Championships when she first came to the fore. The question has to be asked - why would she have tampered with a sample if there was nothing to hide, but NO illegal substances were ever found in her tests afaik.
    Tom Humphreys articles on the matter in his 'best of' collection are excellent.
    The one thing she did do for the country however, is highlighted the need for a 50m pool - there are now two.

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    I think theres clearly a big problem with drug taking in irish Olympic sports.

    When you consider how few athletes we send to the Olympics a big enough percentage have cheated with drugs - Michelle Smith (most blatant), Cathal Lombard (stupid but at least he held his hand up & admitted) & Cian O'Connors horse.

    IMO if Michelle Smith had come out & openly admitted her cheating she would have been treated more favourably by the irish public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    When you consider how few athletes we send to the Olympics a big enough percentage have cheated with drugs - Michelle Smith (most blatant), Cathal Lombard (stupid but at least he held his hand up & admitted) & Cian O'Connors horse
    Well, never mind Lombard, how the bijaysus was the horse ever going to admit to the crime? How much do you expect now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
    Well, never mind Lombard, how the bijaysus was the horse ever going to admit to the crime? How much do you expect now? PP
    I heard the horse was asked was he on drugs and he just replied "Neighhh"

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    Well here's a theory about Michelle Smith's improvement.
    There were some pervy coaches involved in Irish swimming at the time... one of whom is doing time for abusing some of his charges at the moment...

    So when the a/n coach entered the water... sure they would all be trying to get away asap

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    The Michelle Smith case is a strange one.She was never found guilty of taking drugs even though she was the most tested olympian at the games.The testers admitted that they seen here give the urine sample and said it was all above board.She got more of a ban than drug takers themselves.
    Is it possible that it was a set up ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseguy
    The Michelle Smith case is a strange one.She was never found guilty of taking drugs even though she was the most tested olympian at the games.The testers admitted that they seen here give the urine sample and said it was all above board.She got more of a ban than drug takers themselves.
    Is it possible that it was a set up ?
    Who had anything to gain by setting her up?

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    I'm probably wrong but their seemed to be an agenda against her in Atlanta.I know the story is a bit vague in peoples heads now but at the time of her giving the sample it all seemed a bit suss.We'll probably never know the truth.
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