Festy Ebosele D Istanbul Basaksehir b.2002

**pineapple stu** · 22/02/2023, 2:26 PM

I'll take "Things that were never said" for $600 please...!

**Razors left peg** · 22/02/2023, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'll take "Things that were never said" for $600 please...!

I'm just glad to in the presence of someone who knows how long it take any player to settle in a new country

**pineapple stu** · 22/02/2023, 2:51 PM

We now move on to "Things that were never said" for $800...

But Occam's Razor says it's unlikely to be the reason he's on the bench given the vast majority of players don't be set back months by a move to the continent like that.

**Razors left peg** · 22/02/2023, 3:02 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

We now move on to "Things that were never said" for $800...

"you don't need six months to acclimatise to a move to Italy"... I take Paypal for my $800

Has your vast playing career in multiple countries given you such knowledge on how long it takes to settle in each one? I wish you could have had a word with Diego Dalot when he moved to United at a similar age to Ebosele. Hes been annoying me for a few years now trying to settle in, I wish you could have told him there was no need to settle and no learning curve

**pineapple stu** · 22/02/2023, 3:07 PM

Nope - I'm applying Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is often the most likely one. If you reckon he's having trouble acclimatising, let's see why. Otherwise, we can be happy that the far more likely reason he's hardly played at all all season is because it's a step up from Derby and he's not at the level yet. Just like Liam Scales going from Rovers to Celtic, for example.

I get the feeling you're just throwing out any suggestion which might back up your view that Ebosele is worth an international call-up, when all the evidence (and most of the posters here seem to agree) is that he's not.

**Razors left peg** · 22/02/2023, 3:27 PM

I clearly said earlier in this thread that I think its between Ebosele and Andy Lyons as the next man up in that position that is currently our strongest position. I mentioned that the spot in the squad would be as 3rd choice right back because both Coleman and Doherty are able to cover other positions.

He was called up in most recent squads, so the manager clearly thinks that he is worth a call up. He also didnt play him, probably because he is still very raw, but a lot of people were upset not to see him get a game because many thought he could inject some energy.

My opinion on Ebosele is based on what I seen him do in the Championship last season. He was electric at times, but as I said was very raw and far from the finished article. That rawness is why I have absolutely no issue with his career path in Italy so far. If he had gone to the Premiership I wouldnt have expected to see much of him either, he needs a lot of coaching, especially defensively. The fact that he is getting coached and being in around the First team all season, while getting the odd few mins to keep him engaged off the bench I see as a good thing. He could very easily have gone there and disappeared into their reserves and not being seen of again until he got a loan move to L1 or something.

This is the last Im gonna say on it because its getting boring. To me hes a fantasically exciting young talent, who at 20 years old has already proven that he can handle himself at Championship level and was ambitious enough not to just settle for that. He needed a lot of coaching and to me it would seem that there couldnt be a better place to learn defending than Serie A. I absolutely dont think he should be starting for Ireland right now, but I do think he could be in a year or so, so I see a benefit to having him in the squad. I see a much higher potential upside to having him in squad instead of someone like Cyrus Christie who is a solid career Championship level player.

**SkStu** · 22/02/2023, 6:05 PM

It's all gotten very feisty about festy.

**Stuttgart88** · 23/02/2023, 8:57 AM

And so begins another pun-fest...

**John83** · 23/02/2023, 10:43 AM

Stutts is getting testy.

(Don't worry; this one doesn't have legs.)

**paul_oshea** · 23/02/2023, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

We now move on to "Things that were never said" for $800...

But Occam's Razor says it's unlikely to be the reason he's on the bench given the vast majority of players don't be set back months by a move to the continent like that.

Didnt you know Football players are not like us mere mortals. Unchartered territory moving to new countries Phd and Post-Doctoral studies the world over have been conducted on same.

**paul_oshea** · 23/02/2023, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by John83

Stutts is getting testy.

(Don't worry; this one doesn't have legs.)

tetsy?

He's always been a bit tetsy has tetsy

**SkStu** · 04/03/2023, 3:05 PM

Starts today

**Razors left peg** · 04/03/2023, 3:16 PM

Oh could it be he's making some progress, wish someone here could have seen that coming!

**pineapple stu** · 04/03/2023, 4:04 PM

Good to see, but it's a stretch to use this to justify the "Someone with 58 minutes of league action all season should be in the senior squad" argument tbh

**paul_oshea** · 05/03/2023, 1:40 PM

Good to hear https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...-42370617.html

**ifk101** · 06/03/2023, 10:16 AM

Looked good but cramped up around the 60/70 min mark leading to his substitution.

**Razors left peg** · 06/03/2023, 4:31 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Good to see, but it's a stretch to use this to justify the "Someone with 58 minutes of league action all season should be in the senior squad" argument tbh

Less of a stretch than someone who hasnt played a minute of league action all season should be actually starting vs France.

**pineapple stu** · 06/03/2023, 4:41 PM

Not really, given the available options in the various positions.

But we've been over this to death at this stage. Let's see how the guy goes in the coming weeks.