Andrew Omobamidele D Notts Forest b.2002

**Razors left peg** · 04/03/2024, 2:25 PM

If you want an converted defender, who is physically imposing, good on the ball, has and eye for goal and is actually playing in midfield for his club... boy are you going to be excited when you find out about Bosun Lawal

**ontheotherhand** · 04/03/2024, 3:12 PM

I love the idea of trying the lads in centre mid....but we aren't really all that well off at centre half at the moment! Who is actually fit and in form? O'Shea and Scales? You'd be playing Collins regardless of club form probably or would Omobamidele be in ahead of him?

Would love to see if Lawal could do a job. He looks to have all the ingredients we THINK Collins could have if he changed roles - good ball carrier, strong physical presence, goal threat, passing range. At least that's how his highlight reel looks!

**JR89** · 04/03/2024, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by ontheotherhand

I love the idea of trying the lads in centre mid....but we aren't really all that well off at centre half at the moment! Who is actually fit and in form? O'Shea and Scales? You'd be playing Collins regardless of club form probably or would Omobamidele be in ahead of him?

Would love to see if Lawal could do a job. He looks to have all the ingredients we THINK Collins could have if he changed roles - good ball carrier, strong physical presence, goal threat, passing range. At least that's how his highlight reel looks!

Not according to Celtic fans is Scales in form. Getting a lot of negativity from fans on the Celtic forum about his current form.

**Razors left peg** · 04/03/2024, 3:23 PM

Originally Posted by JR89

Not according to Celtic fans is Scales in form. Getting a lot of negativity from fans on the Celtic forum about his current form.

If you weren't an Ireland fan and read this forum you'd think we've never had a player in form ever!

**ontheotherhand** · 04/03/2024, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by JR89

Not according to Celtic fans is Scales in form. Getting a lot of negativity from fans on the Celtic forum about his current form.

Had a read there. You're spot on.

Thought he was good while I was watching the other day and a Celtic season ticket holder friend really rates him but that's grim reading. That said, certain sections of their fanbase have had the knives out for him for a long time and they are a fairly nervy bunch at the minute!

**Stuttgart88** · 04/03/2024, 3:56 PM

I've been watching him and he's been fine. He's not the physical warrior type of CB that fans like. He made some key blocks in the last two live TV games and won a lot in the air on Sunday. Distribution is generally good. I think Celtic fans associate him with slow laboured possession football because he does seem to have the ball at his feet a lot. I think he's missing Hatate who early season was giving him a central midfield outball all the time whereas now his passes are predictable wide passes that don't add much to things. I think if Celtic were winning more regularly he'd be better appreciated. I don't think their careless defeats and draws lately can be attributed to him. Some fans were calling for Nawrocki to return but he's been very careless when in the team. Welsh did a lot better imho.

**ontheotherhand** · 04/03/2024, 4:05 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I've been watching him and he's been fine. He's not the physical warrior type of CB that fans like. He made some key blocks in the last two live TV games and won a lot in the air on Sunday. Distribution is generally good. I think Celtic fans associate him with slow laboured possession football because he does seem to have the ball at his feet a lot. I think he's missing Hatate who early season was giving him a central midfield outball all the time whereas now his passes are predictable wide passes that don't add much to things. I think if Celtic were winning more regularly he'd be better appreciated. I don't think their careless defeats and draws lately can be attributed to him. Some fans were calling for Nawrocki to return but he's been very careless when in the team. Welsh did a lot better imho.

I asked a season ticket holder friend if Scales was getting justified flak and he said - "Celtic fans are fannys". Not quite the level of analysis you've given there Stutts but a similar sentiment.

**Razors left peg** · 04/03/2024, 4:10 PM

Celtic fans, especially online, are idiots who think they should be getting players from Barcelona and not the LOI. Some will never take to Scales because hes not a big enough name. All you have to do is see the reaction to Idah when he signed, when Celtic have always had a good record of signing lads from lower divisions and having them do well.

**Jd2793** · 04/03/2024, 4:16 PM

scales is a bit limited though. there is a reason he was on the fringes under "ange". with oshea, collins and omobamidele we're well stacked there. he's probably a 5th choice at cb.

**Razors left peg** · 04/03/2024, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jd2793

scales is a bit limited though. there is a reason he was on the fringes under "ange". with oshea, collins and omobamidele we're well stacked there. he's probably a 5th choice at cb.

Disagree completely. Theres not many things I give Rogers credit for this season but bringing in Scales is one of them. Just because the previous manager didnt see it doesnt mean he isnt good enough. Hes also a left sided centerback that the others you listed arent. I like all those 3 but I wouldnt say right now any of them are doing enough to say there are guaranteed ahead of Scales. I do think there is good competition for places though

**Eirambler** · 04/03/2024, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by Diggs246

There is a very good reason for that obsession tbf. We have decent players in all sections of the pitch but we are very vulnerable in the middle.
Collins and or Andy O should be looked at in the middle, not because we want to, but we kind of have too. Josh Cullen needs a good footballer beside him. Collins and Andy O might not work but we know the others aren't working. If we do nothing, then our only hope is a natural midfield player landing on our lap and that seems unlikely at the moment.

As the other posters have said it's worked before.

Personally I'd rather throw an early call up in the direction of a Lawal or an Adeeko rather than start shoe-horning out and out centre backs into midfield. Playing centre backs at full back against stronger teams I can get behind, but if we're planning on playing out from the back any bit at all, centre backs in centre mid isn't going to work, the role is too different to what they're trained to do.

**liamoo11** · 04/03/2024, 6:45 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Personally I'd rather throw an early call up in the direction of a Lawal or an Adeeko rather than start shoe-horning out and out centre backs into midfield. Playing centre backs at full back against stronger teams I can get behind, but if we're planning on playing out from the back any bit at all, centre backs in centre mid isn't going to work, the role is too different to what they're trained to do.

To be fair to lawal he was a midfielder when he was at Watford and was been highly regarded and praised by was it troy deeney? Celric seemed to then transition him into centrehalf

**Eirambler** · 04/03/2024, 7:53 PM

Yes, Deeney thought he was amazing. From what I've heard in Glasgow I don't think he has the concentration levels to ever be a top level centre back. Hopefully this run at Fleetwood signals the end of the centre back experiment for him now.

**seanfhear** · 04/03/2024, 8:00 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Yes, Deeney thought he was amazing. From what I've heard in Glasgow I don't think he has the concentration levels to ever be a top level centre back. Hopefully this run at Fleetwood signals the end of the centre back experiment for him now.

So ~ Midfielders can be day-dreamers (wink)

**JR89** · 04/03/2024, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Yes, Deeney thought he was amazing. From what I've heard in Glasgow I don't think he has the concentration levels to ever be a top level centre back. Hopefully this run at Fleetwood signals the end of the centre back experiment for him now.

It should signal the end of it in an Irish shirt at least.

**samhaydenjr** · 05/03/2024, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by ontheotherhand

I love the idea of trying the lads in centre mid....but we aren't really all that well off at centre half at the moment! Who is actually fit and in form? O'Shea and Scales? You'd be playing Collins regardless of club form probably or would Omobamidele be in ahead of him?

Would love to see if Lawal could do a job. He looks to have all the ingredients we THINK Collins could have if he changed roles - good ball carrier, strong physical presence, goal threat, passing range. At least that's how his highlight reel looks!

Jake O'Brien

**Eirambler** · 05/03/2024, 3:35 AM

Omobamidele also. I wouldn't say O'Shea has been out of form, just playing in a struggling team. Collins is the only one who is out of form really.

**ontheotherhand** · 05/03/2024, 8:02 AM

Originally Posted by samhaydenjr

Jake O'Brien

Worth a look for sure.

Could have quite a few new or newish faces in the next squad if the interim team is brave.

**Exgrad** · 15/08/2024, 9:53 AM

With all the moves and talks of moves for our centre backs (O'Brien and likely McGuinness and O'Shea) where does Omobamidele fit in? Had a quick look and looks like hes been on bench for most of the pre season friendlies, did he get injured at end of last season? A player who really could do with a run of games.

**pineapple stu** · 15/08/2024, 10:26 AM

I think we've enough reasonable options that if you're not getting your game for a long period of time, that's grounds to not be in the squad tbh. He was rusty v New Zealand and cost us a goal and the win for example