View Poll Results: Opinion on Stephen Kenny

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  • He should go

    6 16.22%
  • He's on a knife edge: next few games are critical

    2 5.41%
  • There's no point replacing him: let him build; replace him after campaign

    6 16.22%
  • He should be given the entire campaign before making a decision

    23 62.16%
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Thread: Poll: Stephen Kenny vote of confidence

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    Poll: Stephen Kenny vote of confidence

    SkStu suggested a poll on this question.
    Covid-negative, maybe; I haven't checked.

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    I think tets' idea of waiting until after tomorrow was fair, but while question is here - I'm certainly less favourable towards him than I was this time last week, but I think the problems in Irish football go way beyond the manager.

    So I don't see the point in replacing him at the moment, but am leaning towards no contract extension alright.

    (I wonder would he return to the 21s, where he seemed to be doing well? Probably unlikely)

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    I think we can just lock the thread until after the game tomorrow night?
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    Yeah, maybe a good compromise.

    Edit - actually, does that lock the poll too though? Otherwise maybe best to bin this and start afresh on Tuesday evening.
    Last edited by pineapple stu; 29/03/2021 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    SkStu suggested a poll on this question.
    He what now ? That fella is asleep in his bed
    I suggested a poll though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Yeah, maybe a good compromise.

    Edit - actually, does that lock the poll too though? Otherwise maybe best to bin this and start afresh on Tuesday evening.
    That may be the best idea. Let's lock it up and redo this on Wednesday.

    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    He what now ? That fella is asleep in his bed
    I suggested a poll though.
    I had a PM from him.
    Covid-negative, maybe; I haven't checked.

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    Thread unlocked, voting open.
    viva democracy
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    The poll is flawed. There’s no option to keep him beyond the campaign.
    That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    The poll is flawed. There’s no option to keep him beyond the campaign.
    The fourth option is supposed to encompass that.
    Covid-negative, maybe; I haven't checked.

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    And a ~ Don’t Know ! ~ Option.

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    It doesn’t, but it’s not a big deal, it’ll likely be the least supported option. Keep it as is.
    Last edited by Kingdom; 31/03/2021 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Trying to come across less “dicky”
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    Well then, I apologise for the clumsy option. I don't see a way to edit a poll, and that doesn't seem like a good reason to bin this and start over.
    Covid-negative, maybe; I haven't checked.

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    No need to apologise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    Well then, I apologise for the clumsy option. I don't see a way to edit a poll, and that doesn't seem like a good reason to bin this and start over.
    don't think you can
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    I don't get why anybody would vote for 'There's no point replacing him: let him build; replace him after campaign.'

    If you want to replace him after the campaign, then why not now? Just to save the money on paying him off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    I don't get why anybody would vote for 'There's no point replacing him: let him build; replace him after campaign.'

    If you want to replace him after the campaign, then why not now? Just to save the money on paying him off?
    Money is one thing, lack of availability of a suitable alternative, recognition that the new guy is on a hiding to nothing jumping in mid-campaign.
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    Yeah, for me it's that a bankrupt organisation can't really justify the extra expense of sacking a manager six months into a 2-year contract. It's another few hundred grand down the drain.

    When his contract ends, is he the right person to take us forward? I'm leaning towards no - hence my vote - but the fact that our squad is awful and has been getting consistently worse for almost 20 years now is a big mitigating factor.

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    I've not voted. I just don't know where we should go from here.
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    is it fair to say that if we lose to andorra all bets are off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Yeah, for me it's that a bankrupt organisation can't really justify the extra expense of sacking a manager six months into a 2-year contract. It's another few hundred grand down the drain.

    When his contract ends, is he the right person to take us forward? I'm leaning towards no - hence my vote - but the fact that our squad is awful and has been getting consistently worse for almost 20 years now is a big mitigating factor.
    We might disagree on Bazunu but we agree here.

    Is he the right man to bring the senior team instant success? No, I don't think he has it in him. He failed at Rovers under the pressure and has major flaws. When he has done well it's been in specific circumstances.

    Is he a reasonably safe pair of hands for the players coming up from the 21s to be developed into proper internationals and to put in place a system that suits our players better than the run and gun approach that got us hammered by Denmark and saw us struggle to beat Gibraltar? Yeah and that's why I approved of the appointment in the first place. Our squad is years away from competing with even the 2nd tier of national sides. Football has changed and moved on and multiple generations of mismanagement by the FAI, brainwashing by Sky Sports and apathy from Irish sport fans has led us here. It's such a long road back and I don't think people realize quite how bad it is. I mean the association who runs the development of football in the country is in crippling debt with no obvious way out of it and they somehow got there by spending basically nothing on the game they were supposed to foster and develop. It's so bad it's hard to even wrap your head around it. There are green shoots with the Rovers Academy (with Desmond's help) and Bohs work with St Kevins among other good projects but when you look at the support Luxembourg and Iceland got from their central associations.....we are so, so, so far behind.

    Could we do better with the managerial budget we have? Possibly but you're looking at an ex-player who no managerial experience (hi Kenny Cunningham) or maybe an assistant like Barry who wants to step up and climb the ladder a bit. It's a gamble either way. We pay Kenny less than half what we paid Mick. That's the reality. We have a Championship level squad and a League One level manager and we can't do much better for a long time unless something really revolutionary happens.

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