Yeah, he already came out of retirement to take the Norwegian job - unlikely to be interested in going again at 73.
An awful lot of names being bandied about. So what is the goal of a new manager if and when he comes? Get us more organized and stop the slide of defeats/draws? But will he be able to qualify Ireland for the next Euros? Is that an unachievable goal with the current squad? As soon as the window of qualification closes he will be the next managerial casualty. And then the clamour will be for us to play more constructive football (a la what SK is doing now). Vicious circle.
I'd settle for a manager who can keep us from finishing bottom of the group. I don't think people realize the long term implications in terms of seeding when discussing the disaster that is our current managerial situation.
I think qualification for EURO 2024 is what we want.Originally Posted by mark12345
For the team and the country to play football on the ground, we need to start from the ground up and that might take more time then we have
in relation to long term planning we need a fully professional league with proper stadia, pros on a minimum of 90k a year and with proper post career opportunities and education n place .
Euro 2024 qualification can't be a realistic target. I think we need to get that out of the way early doors tbh.
of course it is. being one of the 24 out of 55 teams is a realistic target.
i thinks its fair to expect a decent number of our current crop of younger players to become something.
no way it can be accepted to write off the next euros
I really dont agree. Its 2 automatic places with a NL play off possibility as well.
You have seen the current group table for WC qualifying, yep?
You can say we should be ahead of Luxembourg - but we're not - but we're miles behind Serbia and Portugal. Also, we're currently ranked 31 in Europe.
Of course we should be trying to qualify and we should be trying to win all our games, but I wouldn't be coming out and saying qualification is what we want in a new manager.
I would. I think you are being too kind to Kenny. A new manager could easily have us in the mix. He hasnt done a good job. One of the lads was saying that under Kenny our competitive top scorer is shane Duffy. So for all the horse **** about pretending we can be xavi and pirlo. at the end of the day it was shane duffy our centre half that has possibly kept him in a job with set piece goals.
Of course it can't. It seems like some are buying into the Kenny bullsh1t. Results don't matter, it's about building for the future. That's complete nonsense. He's already failed to qualify for the euros, had a dreadful Nations league and has us bottom and out of World Cup qualification. All this with little to no encouraging signs on the pitch. No matter who we appoint as the next manager, they can't possibly do worse than Kenny has done.
We are still in League B so we will probably get into the playoffs anyway for 2024. Nobody from League A or B was left out last time. I think with that in mind I think its an ideal time to give a manager a good amount of time.
I don't think we've bottomed out under Kenny yet. John83 did a stat yesterday which showed our Elo rating under Kenny was 1483 - that would have us 41st in Europe. So saying that we're ranked 31st now is like looking at a Premier League team in, say, 12th but on a run of eight defeats in a row and freefall towards relegation - you're hoping the a manager can get them back up to 12th. That's the way I view things at the moment.
As you know, football is a funny old game. First game in the euro 24 qualifiers goes our way and boom the country gets behind BigSams army!@!
There’s definitely blood in the water with all the posts on here.
Qualifying format isn't confirmed yet, but 10 UEFA qualifying groups, 20 spots based on your group finish. That leaves 3 spots to be contested - so something different has to happen compared to 2020 qualifying. I guess that UEFA could be guaranteed that all NL A teams will qualify automatically, which would mean you would only have to provide 3 spots for leagues B, C & D. You could allow for only 9 runner's up qualifying automatically and hope that one of the big boys doesn't have a calamity (Uefa thinking not mine).
Then you would have playoffs as per last time between each NL group winner (or next best ranked).
Bosnia, Finland, Ireland, Armenia. That's a potential NL group for us. Could we top it? Yes, in some fantasy land world where players have developed further, and or a new manager is in place with a different tactical plan, yes. So a play off is absolutely possible. As per the calendar, play-off games would likely one off affairs.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
There was a a report leaked last year, it was a survey about wages in EFL clubs around England.
I think the average salary for managers in the championship was £878,000 a year, League 1 was £182,000 a year, and League 2 was £80,000.
Surely there's a manager in League 1 with, firstly, a good few years in the English system where they are able to hold their own, and secondly, a decent track record of bringing young players through and turning them into decent players. Obviously it won't be an amazing managerial record, but a decent record.
That would be a clear improvement over Kenny in my opinion, and doesn't have to break the bank at all.
Last edited by osarusan; 06/09/2021 at 7:10 PM.
Here's the list of managers in the EPL and EFL. By default it's ordered by length of time at their current club, but if you click on 'Division' it'll reorder starting with EPL. You can scroll down to the list of League 1 managers (still ordered by length of time at the club).
EDIT: forgot link! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eague_managers
Paul Cook is one name I'd be happy enough with from that list. Not doing too well with Ipswich right now, but has been around a while, has League 2 (twice) and League 1 titles under his belt, has something of an Irish connection and an understanding of the the domestic scene.
Last edited by osarusan; 06/09/2021 at 8:44 PM.
Any sligo rovers fans here, re the rumour that he left loads of bar and restaurant tabs unpaid after he left? It could be nonsense but have heard it more than once
I’d actually stick with Kenny for a bit yet, but if he does go I’d like to see Eddie Howe in the conversation.
I'm guessing you meant to include this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eague_managers
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