Joe Hodge M QPR (loan from Wolves) b.2002

**Razors left peg** · 22/01/2023, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by Diggs246

Your a millionaire but your dropped
What a weird week for the lad

Pretty great week all in all

**third policeman** · 22/01/2023, 5:37 PM

Notwithstanding the "what Kenny probably meant" explanation, it was still a deeply ambiguous and potentially self-defeating statement. If that's what he meant, he could have expanded and made the point a little bit more legible. But if that is what he meant, it's a fair point. Ronan is a bit of an enigma. He's generally impressed at the levels at which he's played which is weirdly eclectic (Championship, SPL, Slovakia, Swiss 2nd tier) and yet has never has a chance to prove he can perform at PL level. This is not a dissimilar career journey to Hoolahan. I guess PL managers(and our then international manager) looking at Wessi may have made a similar judgement - "technically gifted, but too small and lightweight for the physical demands of the highest level" - but they were kind of proved wrong in the end. We simply don't know whether he's good enough to play at PL or international level, but Kenny had a way to find out by picking him. It seems ludicrous to implicitly challenge his club to give him game time when he wasn't willing to that himself. But that's Kenny.

**BOOMSHAKALAKA** · 22/01/2023, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by Olé Olé

Of course sharing the same agent is relevant. Cognitive dissonance is real here.

Completely irrelevant to my point. Maybe have a re-read?

**Olé Olé** · 22/01/2023, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA

Completely irrelevant to my point. Maybe have a re-read?

"Having Kenny in charge can't be helpful in keeping Hodge" was your point I was responding to. You provide reasons then why it wouldn't be helpful - reasons which were subjective opinions. You ignored that Kenny and Hodge share an agent which is an objective fact and by anyone's measure would "be helpful" in some way towards keeping Hodge.

Not looking for a SWOT analysis here but you pull points to suit your agenda which are subjective and accord weighting to them to suit that agenda and counter any response.

**BOOMSHAKALAKA** · 22/01/2023, 7:20 PM

Originally Posted by Olé Olé

"Having Kenny in charge can't be helpful in keeping Hodge" was your point I was responding to. You provide reasons then why it wouldn't be helpful - reasons which were subjective opinions. You ignored that Kenny and Hodge share an agent which is an objective fact and by anyone's measure would "be helpful" in some way towards keeping Hodge.

Not looking for a SWOT analysis here but you pull points to suit your agenda which are subjective and accord weighting to them to suit that agenda and counter any response.

Ah I see your mistake. You didn't read my whole post, here's some you missed:

'Still, I think Rice was influenced to a certain degree by the Irish set up at the time of his decision to commit treason. Having Kenny in charge can't be helpful in keeping Hodge but hopefully he gets called up and plays against Latvia or France.'

Now you see your error?

**tetsujin1979** · 22/01/2023, 8:07 PM

Treason is a bit much.

**Stuttgart88** · 23/01/2023, 9:26 AM

It's not enough!

**tommy_c12000** · 29/01/2023, 3:01 PM

Disappointing no loan move secured yet to keep up his momentum and help him get into irish squad. He’s unlikely to see any consistent senior game time at wolves for remainder of the season given superior midfield reinforcements that they’ve brought in.

**tommy_c12000** · 16/03/2023, 1:20 AM

Originally Posted by Olé Olé

"Does not and will not" - did you ever consider getting into scouting if you are such an all knowing assessor and predictor of young players?

I appreciate his comments and take them at face value. My issue is more with the ceiling you are so confident in placing on him in terms of his potential as a player and how far he would go as a club player - regardless of how that translates to international level (but were I to estimate top half Premiership would be enough for England caps then I could conclude that you believe top half Premiership is beyond him).

Either way, I look forward to seeing how far he will go for club (who knows) and country (Ireland).

No sign of Hodge even on the bench for past couple of months, as anticipated. Disappointing to see but not surprising. Manager apparently blocked loan move to keep him around the club in Jan, detrimental to his development. He should get game time with our under 21s later this month, unlikely to see any more senior game time for the rest of the season. Will be 21 at start of next season with minimal senior game time under his belt, would surprise me if he makes it in a top league and as a regular for us.

**Razors left peg** · 16/03/2023, 3:30 AM

I disagree with that Tommy. He is highly rated at Wolves but they were in a relegation battle at Christmas and needed more experience in midfield, hard to rely on 20 in that situation. They bought 4 midfielders and still wouldn't loan him out because they still rate him. I think he showed enough that he has talent and at 20 has plenty of time to develop further. I can see him being a regular for us within next 2 years

**CraftyToePoke** · 16/03/2023, 4:15 AM

Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Will be 21 at start of next season with minimal senior game time under his belt, would surprise me if he makes it in a top league and as a regular for us.

How's Ryan Burke getting on Tom ?

**liamoo11** · 16/03/2023, 6:01 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

How's Ryan Burke getting on Tom ?

I'd be hopeful he will be a Championship regular at worst. The point about his age is well made but there are close to 2vyears lost from the leg fracture and spinal stress fracture. To come through both those is a credit to the lad. I think he will be the force driving that 21s

**liamoo11** · 16/03/2023, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

I'd be hopeful he will be a Championship regular at worst. The point about his age is well made but there are close to 2vyears lost from the leg fracture and spinal stress fracture. To come through both those is a credit to the lad. I think he will be the force driving that 21s

Sorry its hodge I'm talking about. Hopefully ryan Burke can push on looked to be a reasonable prospect though not in thevhodge bracket of potential

**JR89** · 08/08/2023, 12:09 PM

Could have a new manager soon. Reports that Julen Lopetegui is in talks with Wolves owners about terminating his contract. Gary O'Neill linked with the job if Lopetegui does leave.

**tetsujin1979** · 08/08/2023, 12:25 PM

Wolves are an outside pick for relegation this season

**seanfhear** · 08/08/2023, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Wolves are an outside pick for relegation this season

" " Outside " " ? ? ! !

**tommy_c12000** · 08/08/2023, 8:52 PM

Manager gone officially it seems. Bad news for Hodge, i suspect the incoming manager won’t give him the opportunities he has already been afforded

**tommy_c12000** · 08/08/2023, 8:53 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

How's Ryan Burke getting on Tom ?

Bringing up a comment with a clear caveat. Nice let’s see how Hodge ends up

**Razors left peg** · 08/08/2023, 9:05 PM

Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Manager gone officially it seems. Bad news for Hodge, i suspect the incoming manager won’t give him the opportunities he has already been afforded

Might be good news for Hodge. Lopetegui didnt play him all 2nd half of last season. New manager might like him more! Glass half full Tommy

**tommy_c12000** · 08/08/2023, 9:27 PM

Love the optimism! Just don’t see a new manager coming in giving him a chance, wolves are surely one of the relegation favorites next year. Joe didn’t exactly impress much during any of his premier league appearances to justify being able to contribute meaningfully from the get go.