Joe Hodge M CD Tondela b.2002

**elatedscum** · 08/01/2023, 3:08 PM

He literally turned down England at U17 level to play for Ireland. There has to be a reason for that. (Admittedly Grealish did the same at either 17s or 19s, so there�s never a guarantee with dual national players). But Joe Hodge is irish, no ifs, no buts, Joe Hodge is Irish.

**Diggs246** · 08/01/2023, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by elatedscum

He literally turned down England at U17 level to play for Ireland. There has to be a reason for that. (Admittedly Grealish did the same at either 17s or 19s, so there�s never a guarantee with dual national players). But Joe Hodge is irish, no ifs, no buts, Joe Hodge is Irish.

Technically question. Became he played for us u16 then eng u17 and then back to us for u19 and u21. Does that mean one competitive cap for us and he is committed to us as per the rules? Or is it still 3 caps?

**Eirambler** · 08/01/2023, 3:55 PM

I don't think he ever played a competitive game for England, so it wouldn't really matter.

So, it's three caps as things stand. He turns 21 in September so a single competitive cap after that would tie him.

**JR89** · 08/01/2023, 4:23 PM

Yeah all his games for England were friendlies before playing for our U17s.

**Paddy Garcia** · 08/01/2023, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Diggs246

Lunacy! And I'm the paranoid one
He's staying and he is Irish unlike Hodge.

Let's get hodge involved asap

Appalling post - no understanding of the Irish diaspora.

**Diggs246** · 08/01/2023, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Appalling post - no understanding of the Irish diaspora.

Is Declan Rice Irish? In your opinion is he Irish

**third policeman** · 08/01/2023, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Diggs246

Is Declan Rice Irish? In your opinion is he Irish

Well he clearly was an Irish citizen. I don�t think identity is as simple as that for 2nd or 3rd generation. People can identify with different aspects of their heritage. I�m sure Ogbene had talked about his Nigerian heritage, but he�s also Irish and proud of it.

**John83** · 08/01/2023, 11:17 PM

Guys, keep it civil.

**texidub** · 09/01/2023, 8:24 AM

These days, it's just not realistic to demand some kind of national purity on the part of players. Families often have complex ties to different places/countries/societies/football associations. Rice left a bit of a bad taste in the mouth after playing for the seniors, but with national purity being less important than it was, we can expect stuff like that to happen. Complaining about it is p1ssing against the wind. And any talented player that wants to play for Ireland should be welcomed.

I will say, regarding Grealish though, that we dodged a bullet there. Imagine Hendricks and Grealish running around midfield with those stupid, Brian-Clough-would-have-scalped-the-pair-of-them haircuts?! I'd be seriously considering changing international allegiance meself if that had ever came to pass.

**paul_oshea** · 10/01/2023, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by elatedscum

Considering the smaller lads were raised in England (Hodge, Cullen, Obafemi) and the taller lads were raised in Ireland (Bazunu, Kelleher, Travers, Collins, Omobamidele, Idah, Ferguson) - I don�t think so

You'd hope for our keepers and Centre Backs to be big lads though wouldn't you? I'm thinking more along the lines of keane, hoolahan, reid, carr, kinsella, browne, knight, Ireland, connolly. You can probably come back with others but theres been so many small players outside of the required height positions like CB/CF/GK down through the years that I think its fair to draw conclusions that our smaller players are coming from non rugby/gaa backgrounds. Of course you have exceptions like Long and even Kevin Doyle

**paul_oshea** · 11/01/2023, 9:57 PM

Missed a pen.

**JR89** · 11/01/2023, 9:57 PM

Gutted for the lad. Stepped up to take the fifth penalty but missed with Forest going through 4-3.

**paul_oshea** · 11/01/2023, 9:58 PM

He'll sadly be blamed for losing it

**SkStu** · 11/01/2023, 10:02 PM

Does his miss now make him more English?

**JR89** · 11/01/2023, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

He'll sadly be blamed for losing it

Adams Traore bitching out and not wanting to take a penalty will probably be the bigger focus from fans. See a lot of fans saying complaining how more senior players stayed quiet with Hodge taking responsibility.

**Eirambler** · 11/01/2023, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Does his miss now make him more English?

More Irish, if anything.

Pens don't seem to be our thing this century, we were great at them back in the 90s.

**Stuttgart88** · 12/01/2023, 11:21 AM

Lopetegui supportive https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023...-penalty-miss/

**paul_oshea** · 17/01/2023, 9:38 PM

He'd fit well into the Irish team given what I've seen of him for a full game, makes himself anonymous

**Jd2793** · 17/01/2023, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

He'd fit well into the Irish team given what I've seen of him for a full game, makes himself anonymous

weird comment

**CraftyToePoke** · 17/01/2023, 9:56 PM

Several reports today of a new long term contract offer from Wolves. Doing well after so much time lost to injury.

https://www.molineux.news/news/joe-h...act-at-wolves/