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Thread: Serbia V Republic of Ireland - Wednesday, 24th March 2021 - World Cup 2022 Qualifier

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    Of course, I'm not trying to condemn the young fella, just disputing the notion he's been borderline faultless for our U21's. I don't think that's true.

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    I think the quotes from the thread at the time are generally quite valid - certainly better than trying to remember back now. And yeah, they're not great.

    But it was two years ago. He's had two years at one of the top clubs in the world - not with its academy, but with the club itself. A lot can happen in that time. I'm not convinced it's all that relevant now. Though I would like to be going into what is probably our biggest qualifier of the 8 with a stronger option in nets.

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    Yeah. I think it’s all fair enough. There were also positive quotes regarding his performance though in Toulon and if you read the negative things alone, it probably gives a harsh view of a tournament where Ireland conceded 3 goals in 5 games.

    The thing I think about goalkeepers is their progression and decline isn’t really visible in a linear way like most players. When a single mistake costs a goal and confidence can be crucial, players can be developing hugely without putting the final piece together in their game, then suddenly and rapidly, they look like a real keeper. Equally, confidence and self belief can both hide a decline or rapidly accelerate it. De Gea for example went from being second best keeper in the world to a bit of a liability within a couple of months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    He was shaky in the first game of Toulon, particularly his distribution but as far as I remember, that game was less than a day after Liverpool won the champions league and did the parade and he hadn’t really slept at all. Flew, landed, played... something like that
    Flying and Landing the Plane = = Fair Dues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Flying and Landing the Plane = = Fair Dues.
    All while trollied off his skull
    Last edited by elatedscum; 20/03/2021 at 2:46 PM.

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    I'm not watching the match, but according to the radio, Coleman is playing on the right of midfield for Everton today.

    No excuse for not playing him and Doherty together against a superior side like Serbia in favour of a wholly inadequate League One-standard squad-filler like Horgan.

    Let's try and get our best players on the field at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    I'm not watching the match, but according to the radio, Coleman is playing on the right of midfield for Everton today.

    No excuse for not playing him and Doherty together against a superior side like Serbia in favour of a wholly inadequate League One-standard squad-filler like Horgan.

    Let's try and get our best players on the field at the very least.
    Actually he appears to be playing in a 3-5-2, but the sentiment still stands.

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    Hourihane subbed off on 18 with what looks like a hamstring injury. Poor old Kenny just can't get a break at the moment.

    I know many like to criticise Hourihane, but he was in very good goalscoring/goal-creation form and is a real threat in-set-piece situations.
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    with the players at disposal, it is really really hard. Some naive choices from the manager. Of course no public iin the stadium is a major plus for a young keeper. I would have played Sean McDermott in goals or Colin Doyle.

    my team for a strategy of winning in Serbia with those players.



    ----------------------Kelleher------------------------------

    ---------Coleman-------K.Long---------C.Clark-----------

    Doherty--------O'Shea/Hendrick-------Cullen-----------Stevens---

    -----------------Hourihane/Brady----------------------------

    ----------------Connolly---------------------S.Long

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    Given that the Norwegian league hasn't even started yet I'm glad you're not picking the goalkeeper.

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    Darragh Lenihan called up. No confirmation yet from the FAI, or who has pulled out
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    Aaron Connolly not even on the bench for Brighton this evening. Don't know is it a punishment for the covid breach or is he not yet back from injury, though the story a couple of days ago were that he was available for selection.

    Hendrick on the bench for Newcastle.

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    O’Dowda also taken off injured. Could be Harness or Maguire replacing him I’d guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    O’Dowda also taken off injured. Could be Harness or Maguire replacing him I’d guess
    Good God. We've got no luck at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    Hourihane subbed off on 18 with what looks like a hamstring injury. Poor old Kenny just can't get a break at the moment.

    I know many like to criticise Hourihane, but he was in very good goalscoring/goal-creation form and is a real threat in-set-piece situations.
    God forgive me. but that's good news.
    I know I should never say such a thing but that's my gut reaction

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iri...t-23763455.amp

    Looks like Cullen might get the nod going on these comments from Kenny. Glad to hear it. I hope Knight joins him midfield. Hendrick is likely to start. With Hourihane out, are there any other options midfield for Kenny? Molumby, Browne and Brady are surely behind the three I have just named.

    Kelleher
    Coleman O'Shea Clark Stevens
    Cullen Knight Hendrick
    Brady/Long Robinson Connolly

    The above would be my selection.

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    I think that's pretty close to what it should be. I think Browne has done more this season than Hendrick to deserve a start despite being messed around a bit in terms of position at club level. But that old intangible - experience - will probably get Hendrick the nod.

    I think Brady needs to start for set pieces if Hourihane is out, although I'd have started him before Hourihane anyway. Neither are great but Hourihane has done very little in an Irish jersey whereas at least Brady has had his moments if you go back far enough. I'd maybe be concerned whether he can last the 90 and who would take set pieces if he goes off. Long can still offer something off the bench.

    Despite everything it's actually an OK team if that's the one that starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    With Hourihane out, are there any other options midfield for Kenny? Molumby, Browne and Brady are surely behind the three I have just named
    He was complimentary about Browne in the Q&A last week, said he'd improved technically I think, pretty sure it was Browne anyway. That's about his lot unless he sticks Coleman in there or as Bielsa said, O'Shea holding midfield

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    I think that's pretty close to what it should be. I think Browne has done more this season than Hendrick to deserve a start despite being messed around a bit in terms of position at club level. But that old intangible - experience - will probably get Hendrick the nod.

    I think Brady needs to start for set pieces if Hourihane is out, although I'd have started him before Hourihane anyway. Neither are great but Hourihane has done very little in an Irish jersey whereas at least Brady has had his moments if you go back far enough. I'd maybe be concerned whether he can last the 90 and who would take set pieces if he goes off. Long can still offer something off the bench.

    Despite everything it's actually an OK team if that's the one that starts.
    Yeah, I would be inclined to agree with you. The only thing about Brady is I'm not sure whether Kenny fancies him in the wide forward role. He has played a few times in midfield alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Yeah, I would be inclined to agree with you. The only thing about Brady is I'm not sure whether Kenny fancies him in the wide forward role. He has played a few times in midfield alright.
    I think he wants more pace in his wingers. He played him there in the first game against Wales and it was: Hendrick as the attacking midfielder, Brady on the right, McClean on the left. Let’s just say there weren’t many times when one of them got past a defender.

    It’s fair enough really. I do think the value of having a dead ball specialist in Brady or Hourihane is directly linked to whether you play Shane Duffy.
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