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Thread: Serbia V Republic of Ireland - Wednesday, 24th March 2021 - World Cup 2022 Qualifier

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Stephen Kenny on the goalkeeping position -



    Other news is McClean is still a doubt though in the squad, while Richard Keogh may make a comeback in the autumn qualifiers and Parrott is unlikely to start given his recent form.
    The funny thing is kelleher was sh*t for the u21s !

    Has done brilliant at liverpool to be fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    I'm fairly sure Kieran O'Hara was down in League 2 with Macclesfield when he was first called up.
    Good shout; you're spot on. Though was with Burton in League One for his two caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    The funny thing is kelleher was sh*t for the u21s !

    Has done brilliant at liverpool to be fair
    Kelleher has been very good for the 21s and has always been good for us underage

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Tis kinda funny how no international manager ever fell in love with Long ~ ~ Since the retirement of Robbie Keane he is probably the highest level forward that we have and still no manager ever fell in love with Shane Long. Sometimes a bit of love is all it takes.
    I think he's married already, old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Question actually. Is Bazunu - playing at the 68th-ranked club in England - the lowest-ranked player we've ever called up? Let's consider English clubs only to avoid comparisons across countries. I can't think of any fourth tier call-ups, though I suspect there may be one somewhere. Don't think Amond ever got called up for example. Or Kinsella/Finnan when playing that low
    Callum O'Dowda had only played League Two football when he made his debut and was being considered for the Euro 2016 squad

    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    At the risk of starting a riot, Jack Grealish should have been called up for US tour when he was on loan at bottom of L2 with Notts County. Was ripping it up there and I fully believe he'd still be an Irish player if he was called up to that tour by O'Neill
    How dare you! What a ridiculous statement! He was never on loan at the bottom of L2 with Notts County! (they were L1 at the time)

    More seriously on the squad - it pretty much picked itself, although I'd probably still have had Hogan over Parrott this time out (or maybe even Shodipo, given his current goalscoring form)

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    Callum O'Dowda had only played League Two football when he made his debut and was being considered for the Euro 2016 squad



    How dare you! What a ridiculous statement! He was never on loan at the bottom of L2 with Notts County! (they were L1 at the time)

    More seriously on the squad - it pretty much picked itself, although I'd probably still have had Hogan over Parrott this time out (or maybe even Shodipo, given his current goalscoring form)
    Really? I was certain I remembered them as L2 at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    I think he's married already, old man.
    Football managers have to be willing to go that extra step.

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    The Serbia manager gives his view on the upcoming games (might be a cue for a match-specific thread actually?)

    We are aiming for nothing less than a maximum nine points and the shambolic performance against Scotland must never happen again while I am in charge.
    He notes there's question marks over a couple of players due to covid restriction requirements at club level, with three players at French clubs - goalkeeper Predrag Rajkovic [Stade de Reims], defender Stefan Mitrovic [Strasbourg] and midfielder Mihailo Ristic [Montpellier] - possibly not going to be released as the game is outside the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Really? I was certain I remembered them as L2 at the time
    I'd have put good money on it being L2 also, but nope. Strange.

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    It was announced today that the 6 EPL based German and 2 Icelandic footballers can travel to Germany for the WC qual game.
    Icelanders are happy because they reckon that their 2 top players are worth more to their team than the gain Germany will get from their 6.

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    Kelleher, Bazunu, Travers, O'Hara
    Coleman, Doherty, Duffy, Stevens, Long, Clark, O'Shea, Manning, Christie
    Hourihane, Browne, Hendrick, Molumby, Knight, Cullen
    Brady, McClean, Horgan, Curtis, O'Dowda, Robinson, Connolly, Long, Collins, Parrott

    The squad is what it is. It's weak, but young and weak is better than old and weak.

    I'd have had Jake Mulraney instead of Daryl Horgan, and Scott Hogan instead or Ronan Curtis. But apart from that it's what we have.
    Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.

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    Mulraney hasn't played a game in three months, and only one in almost five months, so not sure this would be the ideal time to call him up for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    Kelleher, Bazunu, Travers, O'Hara
    Coleman, Doherty, Duffy, Stevens, Long, Clark, O'Shea, Manning, Christie
    Hourihane, Browne, Hendrick, Molumby, Knight, Cullen
    Brady, McClean, Horgan, Curtis, O'Dowda, Robinson, Connolly, Long, Collins, Parrott

    The squad is what it is. It's weak, but young and weak is better than old and weak.

    I'd have had Jake Mulraney instead of Daryl Horgan, and Scott Hogan instead or Ronan Curtis. But apart from that it's what we have.
    Our two big losses are Egan and McCarthy. Clark is no step down from Egan - and McCarthy seems fragile at the best of times. We should be well capable of a draw. But we have zero chance if Kenny showcases go-nowhere tip-tap again - and that's not a call to park the bus and hoof to high heaven. The least he should provide is evidence that a gaggle of woeful performances have not been in vain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    I'd have had Jake Mulraney instead of Daryl Horgan.
    Has he improved hugely since he moved stateside? No offence to the lad but didn’t look good enough for the 21s when he was at that level

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    Hogan hasn't really impressed for us either, I'm not sure he's worth his place due to the occasional mini goal burst at Championship level, though some of those selections are of the splitting hairs variety.

    Horgan has looked better for us than his struggles to establish himself at club level would suggest. I'm not sure Curtis and Collins really merit inclusion though, Collins looked woefully out of his depth in Georgia and Switzerland, and Curtis is game but not sure he offers anything that we don't already have in abundance.

    Plus L1 football has seemingly ruled an infinitely more talented player in McGeady out, if you were to take SK's explanation at face value...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Kelleher has been very good for the 21s and has always been good for us underage
    Disagree with this. He was really poor in Toulon for a start, displaying a array of different types of mistakes. He was better (or at least less tested) in the qualifiers, but still had some really ropey moments, most of which he got away with so easier to forget/ignore. But that was then I guess, he did look a more competent performer for Liverpool this season, so hopefully he's come of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Disagree with this. He was really poor in Toulon for a start, displaying a array of different types of mistakes. He was better (or at least less tested) in the qualifiers, but still had some really ropey moments, most of which he got away with so easier to forget/ignore. But that was then I guess, he did look a more competent performer for Liverpool this season, so hopefully he's come of age.


    I'd say you would be hard pushed to find 2 or 3 mistakes he has made at under 21 level for us . He is a quality keeper and always has been since under 17 level for us. His footballing ability is always going to mean he is suited to a higher level where he can actually knock a 20 yard pass to a centre half who can control and pass it. He also makes his back line play higher because he takes up much more advanced positions himself unlike Randolph who plays so deep that it encourages Duffy to drift back and sit on the edge of our area.

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    He was shaky in the first game of Toulon, particularly his distribution but as far as I remember, that game was less than a day after Liverpool won the champions league and did the parade and he hadn’t really slept at all. Flew, landed, played... something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    I'd say you would be hard pushed to find 2 or 3 mistakes he has made at under 21 level for us . He is a quality keeper and always has been since under 17 level for us. His footballing ability is always going to mean he is suited to a higher level where he can actually knock a 20 yard pass to a centre half who can control and pass it. He also makes his back line play higher because he takes up much more advanced positions himself unlike Randolph who plays so deep that it encourages Duffy to drift back and sit on the edge of our area.
    You're right, I would be hard pushed to find them, as I wouldn't even know where to look. It was mostly handling errors, poor decision making, that kind of thing and not so much leaving in terrible goals, though the second one here is highly questionable. These are some comments throughout the tournament from various posters on here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toulon Thread
    "Thought .Masterson was excellent great composure and passing range really allowed us to play into midfield and saved kelleher s blushes in first half."

    "I was disappointed in Kelleher. good save with feet at a crucial time but I'm not sure he was convincing in the incident that led to Masterson clearing off the line and his late flap and miss at at a routine cross was alarmingly bad in my opinion. Having expected so much due to his reputation I was very underwhelmed."

    "Agree totally on Kelleher. Thought he was very poor when called upon. Flapped at a couple of crosses and didn't look overly commanding. Let's hope it was just a hangover of sorts.."

    "Kelleher is the biggest disappointment so far, looks very uncomfortable."

    "I think Kelleher was unlucky with a bobble for the goal but I haven't been that convinced by him all tournament, looks to have a fairly regular mistake in him which is a concern."

    "I was disappointed with Kelleher. He made some good catches, without making any good saves, if that makes sense. Despite his reputation, I didn't see any good passes or control from him either."
    Your view that he's better (or will be better) with senior pros is stacking up on the little bit of evidence we have so far, so hopefully you're right, and he has probably just improved anyway. I lived around the corner from his club in Cork for a couple of years actually, it would be great to see him succeed, I just haven't been overly convinced as of yet.
    Last edited by DeLorean; 20/03/2021 at 11:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    These are some comments throughout the tournament from various posters on here.
    As far as I remember, Idah in particular and O’Shea received criticism in Toulon. Not that the criticism is definitely wrong, but it’s easy to find criticism of almost everyone’s performance

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