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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Question actually. Is Bazunu - playing at the 68th-ranked club in England - the lowest-ranked player we've ever called up? Let's consider English clubs only to avoid comparisons across countries. I can't think of any fourth tier call-ups, though I suspect there may be one somewhere. Don't think Amond ever got called up for example. Or Kinsella/Finnan when playing that low
    At the risk of starting a riot, Jack Grealish should have been called up for US tour when he was on loan at bottom of L2 with Notts County. Was ripping it up there and I fully believe he'd still be an Irish player if he was called up to that tour by O'Neill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    At the risk of starting a riot, Jack Grealish should have been called up for US tour when he was on loan at bottom of L2 with Notts County. Was ripping it up there and I fully believe he'd still be an Irish player if he was called up to that tour by O'Neill
    Hahaha riot in progress. And I'm not sure this thread is the one for that particular war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Hahaha riot in progress. And I'm not sure this thread is the one for that particular war
    Lets add Keane v McCarthy to the flames too and see the place burn down!!!

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    Just noticed the keeper Rochdale had on loan last season has just been called up to the Spain squad (he's the Brighton number one now). Some good pedigree lines there for Bazunu!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Lets add Keane v McCarthy to the flames too and see the place burn down!!!
    There once was a treaty in 1921....

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    Quote Originally Posted by passinginterest View Post
    I'm not really disappointed that Westwood and McGeady have missed out. The consensus is that it's very unlikely we're going to qualify in this campaign, so I'm ok with Kenny looking to the future and giving the younger players competitive experience. [...] I'm not disappointed that Randolph has missed out, if we're going to play out it needs to be a Kelleher or Bazunu behind the back four.
    I'd be wary of this line of thought myself. If you're good enough, you're old enough, whether you're 36 or 16. Randolph and Westwood are good enough; there's a question mark over McGeady these days, but he's probably good enough based on how poor we are. I probably would have him in the squad on balance; he's the kind of player who could unlock a stubborn Luxembourg defence with a nice pass.

    It's all well and good playing for the future, but not if it means, say, drawing at home to Luxembourg and then players' morale is going through the floor, and a feeling grows that Kenny isn't up to the task. We need to be pragmatic here.

    In the event, of course, Randolph and Westwood aren't available, and there's a logical reason why McGeady wasn't selected. (McGeady may feel a bit aggrieved at being told League One wasn't good enough yet we have three League One keepers and a League One forward in the squad, but we're really stuck there and I take that comment as a sure sign that Kelleher will start)

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    Quote Originally Posted by passinginterest View Post
    Just noticed the keeper Rochdale had on loan last season has just been called up to the Spain squad (he's the Brighton number one now). Some good pedigree lines there for Bazunu!
    I didn't hear anything on whether Robert Lynch Sanchez qualified for us. That puts that to rest now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I'd be wary of this line of thought myself. If you're good enough, you're old enough, whether you're 36 or 16. Randolph and Westwood are good enough; there's a question mark over McGeady these days, but he's probably good enough based on how poor we are. I probably would have him in the squad on balance; he's the kind of player who could unlock a stubborn Luxembourg defence with a nice pass.

    It's all well and good playing for the future, but not if it means, say, drawing at home to Luxembourg and then players' morale is going through the floor, and a feeling grows that Kenny isn't up to the task. We need to be pragmatic here.

    In the event, of course, Randolph and Westwood aren't available, and there's a logical reason why McGeady wasn't selected. (McGeady may feel a bit aggrieved at being told League One wasn't good enough yet we have three League One keepers and a League One forward in the squad, but we're really stuck there and I take that comment as a sure sign that Kelleher will start)
    It's a fair point, I'm another one who thought McGeady was incredibly frustrating but there's no doubt he created goals and can still create (I went looking for some stats and I think in his last couple of qualifying campaigns he had something like 4 assists and 2 goals). It's definitely more of a risk to stick with the younger and unproven players, but it's also got much more potential for medium term reward (with more risk of Kenny not being there to see it too).
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    Yeah, I just don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater is all.

    Kenny's doing well blooding in new players already, and he's the manager to do it having worked with some of the guys at 21s level. But there is a place for experience in the squad too.
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    Definitely, I'm really disappointed with the exclusion to be honest. The standard of L1 is just an excuse I think and it must be more to do with his age or perhaps he doesn't think he'd suit the style he's trying to implement. It's obvious that McGeady's level is higher than L1, he's repeatedly been called the best player in that division. In a couple of months he could well be swapping divisions with Daryl Horgan for example, but I can't imagine that would change SK's thinking.

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    Hes trying to implement a keep ball, keep possession style. Of course that rules McGeady out.
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    Stephen Kenny on the goalkeeping position -

    Caoimhín has obviously played ten Under-21 internationals under me and he was brilliant, did very well. I think he's played five games for Liverpool this year too in the Champions League, so he's used to big games and it won’t be an issue for him.

    Mark Travers is definitely the next one in
    Other news is McClean is still a doubt though in the squad, while Richard Keogh may make a comeback in the autumn qualifiers and Parrott is unlikely to start given his recent form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    At the risk of starting a riot, Jack Grealish should have been called up for US tour when he was on loan at bottom of L2 with Notts County. Was ripping it up there and I fully believe he'd still be an Irish player if he was called up to that tour by O'Neill
    At the time, I argued for both Grealish and Carruthers to be called up. Saw grealish play an FA Cup game against decent opposition and he was incredible. Meanwhile, Carruthers was excellent against Liverpool for Villa. Obviously they don’t all work out, but you take your chances with really exciting youngsters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    At the time, I argued for both Grealish and Carruthers to be called up. Saw grealish play an FA Cup game against decent opposition and he was incredible. Meanwhile, Carruthers was excellent against Liverpool for Villa. Obviously they don’t all work out, but you take your chances with really exciting youngsters...
    O'Neill was just being stubborn at the time, we had a load of players pulling out of that US Tour. It was when I first started to really dislike him

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    You can't really argue too much with the squad Kenny's picked. McGeady's form maybe merited his inclusion, but given he's 35 next month and playing in the third tier, this would arguably be a regressive move. No-one can reasonably complain too much. It's good to see Bazanu in there though.

    Kenny's in an invidious position really, and I do feel for him. The quality just isn't there.

    I only hope Cullen is given a chance to prove himself.

    I would probably have thrown a few of more of the younger players in there like Odubdko and Coventry, and perhaps Flynn and Ferry, We have little to lose. But this is more of a personal feeling than a criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    You can't really argue too much with the squad Kenny's picked. McGeady's form maybe merited his inclusion, but given he's 35 next month and playing in the third tier, this would arguably be a regressive move. No-one can reasonably complain too much. It's good to see Bazanu in there though.

    Kenny's in an invidious position really, and I do feel for him. The quality just isn't there.

    I only hope Cullen is given a chance to prove himself.

    I would probably have thrown a few of more of the younger players in there like Odubdko and Coventry, and perhaps Flynn and Ferry, We have little to lose. But this is more of a personal feeling than a criticism.
    Id agree with you, especially with Cullen. To me he seems the ideal player too take the ball of the defenders and look to pass it forward.

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    Ive just noticed that there is no James McCarthy included despite guarantees from our South America correspondent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Ive just noticed that there is no James McCarthy included despite guarantees from our South America correspondent.
    Trying to keep the Serbia coach guessing till the last minute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Ive just noticed that there is no James McCarthy included despite guarantees from our South America correspondent.
    Not even a Jimbo McCarthy, disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Question actually. Is Bazunu - playing at the 68th-ranked club in England - the lowest-ranked player we've ever called up? Let's consider English clubs only to avoid comparisons across countries. I can't think of any fourth tier call-ups, though I suspect there may be one somewhere. Don't think Amond ever got called up for example. Or Kinsella/Finnan when playing that low
    I'm fairly sure Kieran O'Hara was down in League 2 with Macclesfield when he was first called up.

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