QuoteSeems like discrimination to me.
Very appropriate.The Official World Championship song "Come out and Play"
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Next month it's getting started, this year in Copenhagen... Next year the Maccabian Games (Jewish world cup) are coming up again.
Don't know if this is not slightly over the top. Think it's great we have a special football tournament for mentally handicapped and for the Deaf, as they are truely disadvantaged towards their opponents. For homosexuals I don't really see the need, then on the other hand I do appreciate the ethnical minorities' teams as they clearly fill a social gap and have much use in troubled areas (especially their youth sections).
What are your opinions on events like this Gay WorldCup ? Is this a good thing or should we criticise such 'thinking in labels' ?
Seems like discrimination to me.
Very appropriate.The Official World Championship song "Come out and Play"
wouldnt like to see their celebrations
Originally Posted by thecorner
wouldnt like to see their celebrations
Nah folowing on from what Gerrit said we should only have seperate competitions for those who have trouble competing in the mainstream competions i.e. deaf people and mentally handicapped people (thoguh I still think these people should be able to play in the "mainstream" if they want to but should be given the oppurtunity to compete in their own tournament as it is fairer).
Why can't a gay man play on a "mainstream" football team? I'm sure loads do. The only thing i can think of is he may be distracted by the other players but for the same reason you could stop good looking fans sitting in the front row
I think it's a bit pointless really.
Having said that i'm thinking mabye gay men are intimidated by playing mainstream football or something? Though to be honest I can';t really see many gay men being encouraged to play football by this.
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Maybe there is still a bit of a taboo on homosexuality in football, maybe they have the idea that it's still a bit of macho thing (for "real men"
Anyway, I do know that IF a player in a famous club would come out for his orientation, he'd get lot of insulting chants from opposite fans, as he's making himself an easy target
In the Netherlands, Haarlem used to have a gay player. For nine years he kept it a secret as his sister joined to all games, pretending she was his wife
"Come out and play"
BTW, to be complete, it's Gay and Lesbian World Cup. So far approx 30 teams enroles for the males tournament and approx 20 all-lesbian teams enroled in the ladies tournament.
Are East Germany in the lesbian tournament or the gay one?
It's probably for camp gay men and drama queens, you know the ones that talk and act like women. They'd struggle a bit in mainstream football. Although by the looks of it, it seems like a mickey mouse tournament.
If you go here and read the 'Facilities by the field' paragraph, they say 'In connection with the fields there are changing facilities for everybody. This of course includes showers.........near the fields and the other facilities, it will be possible to get a massage'. I'd say it's best the heterosexual population of Copenhagen give this one a miss
I remember reading about it in Goal magazine a few years back. Apparently most of the players play in "mainstream" football as it's been referred to in this thread as well as in this tournament.
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Didn't some Irish paper have an article about an Irish ladies team in the Gay World Cup about 6 or 7 years ago.
There is still a hell of a lot of nastiness directed towards gays playing in straight sports which is a pity. Remember the abuse Justin Fashanu got.
One day, hopefully, we can welcome all people, regardless of their sexual orientation, to play with us heterosexuals. It's amazing, in 2005, that this is a problem.
Personally, if I was still playimg, I wouldn't give a $h!t whether my team mate was gay or not but if he missed an open goal, is one still allowed to "Ah, fcuk ya!"
Name one other openly gay footballer? Isn't it one in ten men are gay, and there's how many pro's in the leagues in Ireland, England, Scotland?
Whilst there's discrimination, or the fear of discrimination, then I think fair play to them.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
We used to be always feed that line in school..."3 people from this class are gay..."
If that was true would be 400k gay people in Ireland which seems unlikely...
I don't know what the proportion is, but it's a damn sight more than the one who's been out in x years/ ever.....We used to be always feed that line in school..."3 people from this class are gay..."
If that was true would be 400k gay people in Ireland which seems unlikely...
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Im assuming there were more than three people in the class.........We used to be always feed that line in school..."3 people from this class are gay..."
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Very good Gerrit couldn't have done better myself!!
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its this kind of **** that makes people homophobic.
They go on about how they should be treated equal(which they should) and then create their own world cup ??? - when theres clearly nothing preventing a gay man /woman playing for mainstream team.
its closer to 2%-4% of the population, not 10%
Anyone can make their own "World Cup". We could have the "Foot.ie World Cup". Won't be sanctioned by FIFA though. If they want a Gay and Lesbian World Cup and it makes them happy, good for them.
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Which club does he play for now ?
I don't think he is the ONLY one that came out of the closet. Didn't Matt Le Tissier or Graeme Le Saux (always confused between those two...) admit to be homosexual as well ?
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Matt Le Tissier is married to that Australian actress that used to be in Home & Away, I think she's in Emmerdale now. Graeme Le Saux is married with a family AFAIK. He used to be called gay because he came from a middle-class background and is apparantly quite cultured. Neither are gay.
If you are referring to Justin Fashanu, he killed himself a few years back. Something concerning a teenager in America if not mistaken.
Graham LeSaux was apparently called 'a poof' for
Personally I couldn't give a f*ck about anyone's sexuality. Rumours have abounded over the years about players and apart from blatent hypocracy (e.g. Michael Portillo) it is one of the most boring things that I can think related to a person. There have been rumours about some Irish internationals. I've certainly met some Irish fans that are/were Gay, and not because they asked me for a 'stiff one' when I enquired what they were drinking. Trouble is that it bothers a lot of society, hence the need for a Gay World Cup - even if it goes against 'integration.'
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