QuoteDid you watch any of the games? Tranksfermarkt says he played LM but Livescore is saying RM. Either way I think he'll play either of those positions for us under Hallgrimsson assuming we play 442.
Goal and assist both last week and today in Aberdeen victories. They've won all 6 matches so far this season, 4 cup, 2 in the league, he's started all of them. Feels like he's finally gotten the right move.
Did you watch any of the games? Tranksfermarkt says he played LM but Livescore is saying RM. Either way I think he'll play either of those positions for us under Hallgrimsson assuming we play 442.
I've only seen the highlights from both games and he scored from the left side in both, also assists were from right footed inswinging corners on the left.Originally Posted by JR89
Seems Aberdeen have lost their main striker to Girona, so things might get a little tougher from now on, but looking at their fixtures, they really could win the first 5/6 league games before running in to Celtic.
Gavin Molloy has continued playing every minute of every game so far too. Really handling the step from LOI to SPL well.
Last edited by Acornvilla; 11/08/2024 at 9:01 PM.
You think he'll start or just be an option there?
Playing a run of games in a side doing well, high on confidence should see him around the squad at least. I wasn't sure he'd get caps under the next manager, but he's not doing himself any harm so far. I think he's a good squad option and we probably haven't seen the best of him in an Irish shirt yet. Away in Portugal was the one match that sticks out in my mind that I really remember thinking he can contribute a lot for years going forward. Then he made the awful move to Wigan and hasn't seemed to quite hit those previous heights, until now hopefully.
I think it's more a case that he's playing left of a 3 behind a main striker and drifting centrally when he can.
Last edited by Acornvilla; 11/08/2024 at 9:29 PM.
Think Ogbene has RM locked if he's fit and available. When it comes to LM there's no standout player. When Iceland played 442 believe they had a CM player who played a lot out wide.
Don't know if it was a tactical thing or just Iceland didn't really have anyone to play LM I think it might have been. Have one wide player make it a midfield three with the other natural wide player pushing higher to make it a front three.
He keeps up the good form then don't see why he shouldn't start at LM. Think Knight is another player who could be a wide midfield option for Hallgrimsson if we only play with a midfield two.
Could see a work horse like player start on the left with someone like Johnston to come off the bench. Just need to get away from Celtic as he's been used as a CF this season it seems. Think Hallgrimsson will like someone like Callum ODowda too.
Why so?
Halgrimsson left the Iceland position a full 6 years ago, didn't he?
So is 4-4-2 his preferred formation? Or was that just the most pragmatic deployment of the very slim playing resources available to him at that time?
Did he mostly use this system with Jamaica? It looks like He played with a back three in his last two matches, at least, against Ecuador and Mexico. He did say he wasn't wedded to any particular formation when he was first interviewed, but most managers will have their preferred system.
It seems to me we'll get completely overwhelmed in every match if we play a 1980s-style 4-4-bloody-2 against any, even remotely reasonable international team, in 2024.
It's not even as if we have two central midfielders of exceptional ability. Two peak Roy Keanes playing in there would struggle in today's game. And we looked woefully outnumbered in that area during Kenny's time, in almost every match.
I remember McCarthy saying, when he came in for his second spell back in 2018, that it would be naive to play a 4-4-2, as he had done back during his first spell, in the modern game.
It certainly looked that way under Trap.
With Jamaica it seemed he favoured 442 but did use 3 at the back towards the end of his reign. I wouldn't be surprised to see him stick with that for us, especially if the backroom will be the interim staff.
He'd been struggling to recapture his St. Mirren form and to make the step forward I'd hoped he could, new shiny toys always come along to take your place if you stand still. Thankfully it looks like he's doing the thing
Playing 4-4-2 only really makes sense if the plan is to basically concede midfield out of possession and defend deeper instead and to basically bypass it in attack, either through quick counter attacking play or long ball. It can work, but only in a specific game plan.
I expect we'll play a 4-2-3-1 that can be a 4-5-1 when you're under pressure. but the option to spring a lot of bodies forward on the counter.
Someone like Knight/Mcgrath on the left means they could drop deeper and more centrally to bulk up midfield when needed, someone like Sammy or Troy centrally and Ogbene on the right to stretch things, with Ferguson/Idah at the tip. Hopefully a few more people put their hands up to offer more options and alternatives.
Central midfield is the biggest issue still, and someone to take the left back spot.
I wonder will ogbene be locked in to start at RM, if Mcateer comes onboard?
He has a lot of work to do to displace Chio as things stand imo. Will he even get meaningful game time for Leicester in the PL this season and be able for the step up or get loaned out by Christmas would be my initial thoughts on him and where his career is. I hope he's great, people seem to think highly of him, but he's 22 and has had more or less one good season or half a season at championship level to his name.
He played 26 times last season, is there an indication he wont be playing in the prem?
He was a sub in their last two friendlies, got about 30 mins in each. We'll see, we have no idea if he's good enough yet. I don't know if they're looking to sign more players, but if he gets a chance and doesn't take it, or the team aren't doing well there's no guarantee they'll pin their hopes on him, that's why I don't know if he's going to be playing enough to be in an Ireland squad yet. Lot's of unknowns, we'll find out soon.
I actually don't know the stats, but how many of those 26 apps were starts, I think he was injured a bit, and would likely have played more otherwise?
Last edited by Acornvilla; 12/08/2024 at 2:13 PM.
Ive no idea re starts out of the 26 apps
but if this article is to be believed and its a big if tbf , he must be very good
Report: Premier League Clubs Lining Up To Sign Ireland Hopeful | Balls.ie
14 starts in those 26.
So if you take it he was a squad player really last season, then that's the kind of player that might get pushed down the pecking order when a team gets promoted to the Premier.
But then he did have three months out injured in that time and he's only 22, so he could equally kick on this season and challenge for a starting spot more, which would be great. I think Acorn's right in that we'll know by Christmas which way the season is likely to go for him.
Yep that's more than fair
We will know by xmas
Another win and assist today for Jamie
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