The other team in Liverpool

[anto1208]

That is the funniest thing ive read in ages!!!

Everton for the champions league next year!!!!! LMFAO

youll get as far as the UEFA cup 3rd round i reckon by then your league campaign will be all about trying to survive in the premiership once again

let me guess a liverpool fan ??

remember how hard every one laughed last year at liverpool fans when they said they could win it and they did so surely a better team than liverpool have a better chance .

[jockser]

eh.... who was better in europe this season than Liverpool???

[Gerrit]

There is an element of inverted snobbery if you ask me. Its quite the 'in' thing to follow a crap side. Im sure if the EL games over night were getting 20k, 30k, 40k crowds that there would be an element of the current fans that would be saddened by this. As in all honesty there is (i'd imagine) something about the camaradarie of the close knit setup now that would ultimately be lost if crowds got that big.

Whilst Tranmere v Colchester might offer the opportunity of a ground you've not been to before or teams you've not seen or indeed mixing with fans who ultimately have a different outlook than say top premiership fans - I think the footie on show was always going to be better at goodison

Slightly off topic but I am one of those who would be disappointed if crowds would rise suddenly. One of the things I like about supporting small teams is that the few die-hards form a close group of football pals, which is never possibly if you're anonymous in a mass of 20000. I have always supported 'crap teams' BTW from way before it became a fashion, only Rosenborg rised above its past 'crap status' and grew to be a decent club - my other sides are still minnows in Europe (Shels) or own country (Ostend).

and as I like socialising with football fans everywhere and like discovering new grounds, places and teams, I would prefer Torshavn vs Tbilissi everyday rather than another Real Madrid vs AC Milan with the same old players.



Back on-topic. On my last day in Liverpool I found an Everton scarf It still exists ! They were selling them in a shop, but the scarfs were in the very back of the store, while the front of the store was full of Liverpool stuff with the words "European" and "champions" on them...

[Gerrit]

Turkish delight ?! You do know that the local girls have to be virgin till marriage ? Would be a pretty lame reason to chose a team anyway

[4tothefloor]

I like the fact that when 4to the floor is baseing his answer on the fact there were more liverpool shirts around on the night of the champs league and a chelsea game at anfield(on the 2 times he has been ) , that that means there are more pool fans ....
i think it might be the fact that liverpool were playing that day
also if liverpool are at home everton are away so there fans would be going to the game or watching it on the box not wandering around anfield road

If you read it properly you'll see that I wasn't referring specifically to the nights of the game. I said I spent a couple of nights on both occasions in Liverpool. This includes the evening before, night of and day after the games. Walking around Liverpool and the city centre, no sign of anything Everton. I wasn't just talking about match days.

As far as I can see, the majority of the locals who attend Anfield are working class people. Liverpool as a whole is largely a working class city, so I don't see how Everton are 'the Peoples Club' anymore than Liverpool. Granted, Everton are a poorer club, a success starved club, but that doesn't mean all the working class support them . All those skits in the eighties about Liverpool fans with perms and moustache's in shell suits - so they were middle class fans, or am I missing something?

[CollegeTillIDie]

Half Man Half Biscuit... the band are all mad Tranmere Rovers. And they refuse to play gigs on Friday nights that The Tran are at home in Prenton Park. Even turned down TV appearances in the 1980's cause they clashed with Tranmere Rovers home games !

[Closed Account 2]

I think the footie on show was always going to be better at goodison

Well there was decent football on show the last time the 2 teams met in the cup at Goodison a few years ago... anyone remember the score ?!?!

[anto1208]

If you read it properly you'll see that I wasn't referring specifically to the nights of the game. I said I spent a couple of nights on both occasions in Liverpool. This includes the evening before, night of and day after the games. Walking around Liverpool and the city centre, no sign of anything Everton. I wasn't just talking about match days.

As far as I can see, the majority of the locals who attend Anfield are working class people. Liverpool as a whole is largely a working class city, so I don't see how Everton are 'the Peoples Club' anymore than Liverpool. Granted, Everton are a poorer club, a success starved club, but that doesn't mean all the working class support them . All those skits in the eighties about Liverpool fans with perms and moustache's in shell suits - so they were middle class fans, or am I missing something?

well liverpool is my second home , ive a season ticket and head over about 20 times a year , ive friends and family that live there and yes i do meet evertonians every time ( and not just inside goodison )
if your in the city centre then look in either of the 2 everton mega stores its full of everton stuff.

even your couple of nights are still before and after a liverpool game , of coarse there will be more liverpool jerseys about , mainly because you have guys like you that will travel over from ireland wales and norway and wear there jersey all weekend .

[razor]

if your in the city centre then look in either of the 2 everton mega stores its full of everton stuff.

I wouldn't exactly say "mega", its a small enough shop, well from the outside, never been in there obviously.

[anto1208]

I wouldn't exactly say "mega", its a small enough shop, well from the outside, never been in there obviously.

well the only other city centre store ive been in is celtics and its bigger than that one . its the new one with the glass windows its pretty large for a shop that only sell s everton stuff.

[Macy]

Slightly off topic but I am one of those who would be disappointed if crowds would rise suddenly. One of the things I like about supporting small teams is that the few die-hards form a close group of football pals, which is never possibly if you're anonymous in a mass of 20000.

But you're not. When you get down to the hardcore home and away fan you're back down to under a 1000 really, even at clubs with over 67,000 at home games...

[Jaime]

Plus, English fans (whether inside or outside the hardcore) tend to drink and travel with their mates, often from the same estates (in the north anyway?), so I would imagine that the rest of the 30,000 / 40,000 are anonymous anyway.

[Macy]

Plus, English fans (whether inside or outside the hardcore) tend to drink and travel with their mates, often from the same estates (in the north anyway?), so I would imagine that the rest of the 30,000 / 40,000 are anonymous anyway.

Exactly, you make mates at the match whatever size of crowd (just whether you can watch the match with them in all seater rubbish stadiums)

[tayto repairman]

as i said before if liverpool one of the worst teams in this years comp can win it then any one can , and considering everton have a better side than liverpool at the moment , they have every chance .

and before ye start going on about all the europeen cups ye have bla bla bla , ill point out that only for liverpool getting all english clubs banned everton would have a bag of cups , being one of the top europeen sides and favourites to lift the cup in 85 ,

i guess you're a bitter?



***** - count 'em, if you can.

[Gerrit]

well liverpool is my second home , ive a season ticket and head over about 20 times a year , ive friends and family that live there and yes i do meet evertonians every time ( and not just inside goodison )
if your in the city centre then look in either of the 2 everton mega stores its full of everton stuff.

even your couple of nights are still before and after a liverpool game , of coarse there will be more liverpool jerseys about , mainly because you have guys like you that will travel over from ireland wales and norway and wear there jersey all weekend .

Bit weird was to see the Everton and Liverpool clubstores seperated from each other by only one house in between... You can easily walk from the one store to the other in less than 30 seconds.

But it seems the rivality between EFC and LFC is not that harsh and bitter as between Man Utd and Man City ? I mean, I don't have the impression that Liverpool or Everton fans hate the other club in the city from the bottom of their hearts, which seems to be the case in other city rivalities such as United-City/Villa-Birmingham/Bristol R-Bristol C

[anto1208]

Bit weird was to see the Everton and Liverpool clubstores seperated from each other by only one house in between... You can easily walk from the one store to the other in less than 30 seconds.

But it seems the rivality between EFC and LFC is not that harsh and bitter as between Man Utd and Man City ? I mean, I don't have the impression that Liverpool or Everton fans hate the other club in the city from the bottom of their hearts, which seems to be the case in other city rivalities such as United-City/Villa-Birmingham/Bristol R-Bristol C

sure you can walk from one pitch to the other in a few mins

rivalry isnt that harsh because you have families sopprting both in a lot of cases 1 brother is red the other blue etc etc ... its mainly friendly ould banter as you can see from the disscussions we have on here with the reds that neither will side will admitt defeat no matter how wrong they are ! isnt that right 4tothefloor

[4tothefloor]

isnt that right 4tothefloor

Not really, because Liverpool actually win things, Everton don't. You're the one calling the European Champions 'the worst team blah blah blah....' - just admit that you were upstaged by Liverpool again and get over it. Also, I'd be seriously worried if there weren't any Everton fans in the Everton "mega" store.

[Jaime]

The shop with the glass windows.