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    LOI In Europe 2021

    Might as well get the ball running, lol. (see link below)

    I know this is all pure guess work at the moment, but from the current standings it looks like Shamrock Rovers need a lot of luck to be seeded in the CL, but having said that some of the CL seeds look pretty weak (so far).

    As for Dundalk, it looks like they will be seeded no probs for three rounds, and all going well the fourth one too in the new ECL conference, at the moment the ECL Conf looks harder than the Europa League with the likes of man city, man utd, Borrusia monch, in it, etc. I was a little shocked to see this is where Basel will be playing next season (if they manage to qualify!), oh how the mighty have fallen.
    I do wonder what difference then the europa and the new conference will make if a top team from the big leagues win it, more of the same and still no hope for the small leagues to get to a final...........




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    https://editorial.uefa.com/resources...1-22_final.pdf

    No places for us in the Europa League, and three places in the first round of qualifiers of the Conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    https://editorial.uefa.com/resources...1-22_final.pdf

    No places for us in the Europa League, and three places in the first round of qualifiers of the Conference.
    When does that kick in D24? Thats a bit of a blow to the loi!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Might as well get the ball running, lol. (see link below)

    I know this is all pure guess work at the moment, but from the current standings it looks like Shamrock Rovers need a lot of luck to be seeded in the CL, but having said that some of the CL seeds look pretty weak (so far).

    As for Dundalk, it looks like they will be seeded no probs for three rounds, and all going well the fourth one too in the new ECL conference, at the moment the ECL Conf looks harder than the Europa League with the likes of man city, man utd, Borrusia monch, in it, etc. I was a little shocked to see this is where Basel will be playing next season (if they manage to qualify!), oh how the mighty have fallen.
    I do wonder what difference then the europa and the new conference will make if a top team from the big leagues win it, more of the same and still no hope for the small leagues to get to a final...........




    https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...I0j65LlMWkMofc
    Will Sligo Rovers and Bohs be unseeded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    When does that kick in D24? Thats a bit of a blow to the loi!
    Itís supposed to start this year afaik , not sure where it stands with the covid affecting its launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Might as well get the ball running, lol. (see link below)

    https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...I0j65LlMWkMofc
    Cracking Spreadsheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbull View Post
    Will Sligo Rovers and Bohs be unseeded?

    Not even near it by the looks of the spreadsheet, but then the first round is pretty much all in the open, in that a lot of seeded teams are easily beatable, for example teams from Norn Iron, Gib, etc. Dundalk, on the other hand, look like they could be seeded three rounds, and maybe even the last round to the groups if all went well for them.......
    At the moment Arsenal and Spurs look like they might be in this competition, lol

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    This is going to go a couple of ways in terms of launch. It will be postponed until 2022 and finances have stabilised and existing competitions will have prizemoney paired back in 2021. Or it will be launched and a fraction of the intended prizemoney will be on offer to keep clubs in the higher tiered competitions quiet - at a time when the pressure is on from the alleged breakaway thats in the mix and Infantino playing both sides of the net. So most likely CL money will at minimum be kept at close to usual. It may be useful to have some heavy hitters in the ECL as they could stamp their feet on not getting a better slice of the finances which could drive up initial propoed finances - i'd say you will see bigger than usual incremental increases as the rounds progress in the ECL to weight money toward club that are most likely to progress.

    When initially proposed Id hoped this was an opportunity for LoI, its still is for the champions. Losing EL places wouldnt be the worst if money in the ECL was decent and coefficient points can be reasonably accumulated too. But the complete lack of info on finances even prior to pandemic disruption is concerning as imo UEFA would be shouting fro the rooftops how this competition will help revenue filter down to lower ranked league. That nothing has been said it feels more like being cut loose and thrown a few crumbs is why they have kept quiet considering there are already teams qualified for a competition that little is know about. Maybe no new is good news and that there will be one more year in a more lucrative EL, which is a clumsy, bloated, and not particularly popular competition at the top tables.

    As a bit of a traditionalist, i'd love to see that bloatedness dealt with by reintroducing the CWC to lower the numbers in other Competitions. Wouldnt make that much difference imo as many of the cup winners will have likely qualified to various comps by other means and let them pick the higher ranked comp if they so wish (sometimes a big fish in a small pond as advantages if eg winning a CWC give as CL or EL berth the following season), then runners up/League Cup step in. Im really just thinking out loud on this tbh.

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    It looks like Rovers will also be un-seeded although with only drawing one game last season (pen shoot out counts as a draw I think), it was unlikely they would have built up required points.

    It didn't help Dundalk last year being seeded in CL (Cleje) but it did in 2016 (FH Iceland), and these things are so important, as is the luck of the draw, which we clearly got last year.
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    Yeah, the shoot-out counts as a draw. Those figures obviously aren't final as most leagues are far from finished but it's a pretty strong indication we won't be close to being seeded.

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    luck of the draw is everything

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