LOI In Europe 2021

**Calcio Jack** · 19/08/2021, 6:29 PM

Originally Posted by Philosophizer

Will Grace be fit to start next week? I'd imagine Kavanagh would come in at LWB too with his attacking quality.

He should be …. Scales should keep his place better than Kavanagh

**paul_oshea** · 19/08/2021, 6:30 PM

The biggest problem with this is no one saw bohs or dundalks games, they didn't see how good some teams can perform in Europe against actually decent opposition . Yet there'll be a few who've tuned into this and think God this is awful stuff. A good friend , footballing fella screenshots me the final score from Livescore. Not against Loi or anything like that but not a fan , and that's what he'll/he has seen. Very disappointing people want exposure then when it comes they can't perform against similar level opposition

**Dalymountrower** · 19/08/2021, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Philosophizer

Will Grace be fit to start next week? I'd imagine Kavanagh would come in at LWB too with his attacking quality.

Lee Grace being the potential saviour tells you all you need to now about Rovers strength in defence.

**DCWA** · 19/08/2021, 6:31 PM

Omonia who Flora only lost out on against on pens as we know could well end up in the EL group stages via a victory over a Belgian side (early yet I know) so are probably a decent outfit.

I think there was a bit of underestimating Flora simply because they are Estonian. Clearly they aren’t bad at all.

That being said this evening was a shambles from Rovers and Flora will almost certainly score goals in Tallaght meaning Rovers are almost certainly out.

**the 12 th man** · 19/08/2021, 6:33 PM

You see better defending in the Senior Sunday Division in the Leinster Senior League.

Think it was more the individual errors than anything else that did the damage.

The third goal was a complete comedy of errors.

**Nesta99** · 19/08/2021, 6:36 PM

Originally Posted by Philosophizer

Fiddling around switching Green for Gaffney won't be much good if you leave the centre of your team wide open.

Originally Posted by Philosophizer

Got out of the jail again. Sliced open right though the middle AGAIN. How has Bradley not changed something to tighten up the middle?

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

How did Rovers beat Slovan?

I think the answer to the above, comments including before today and that if Rovers set up like Slovan away rather than more like at home they will be punished for it. Bradley believed Flora were better than Slovan, I think that was an attempt to ground exepctation rather than really believing it albeit both the result and performance seems to indicate that the Rovers players would have the better of the game, maybe like Slovan in Tallaght. You have to question Bradley's tactical performance along with the players not grafting as needed. Too naïve, too cautious in advance, stumped on how to change things when the game was getting away? It took some individual intervention by a couple of the star players to drag Rovers in to the home leg with a chance, at least I didnt see anything from the bench to have influenced things. Yup I know similar can be said of Dundalk 2020 under VP, star player pulling us in to the home leg v Vitesse this year, easy draws etc etc. Should it be considered that its poor coaching decisions undoes LoI more than the ability or potential of clubs/teams!?

**ontheotherhand** · 19/08/2021, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Lee Grace being the potential saviour tells you all you need to now about Rovers strength in defence.

You'd swear Bohs weren't 16 points behind Rovers with 6 more goals conceded reading that.

**Dalymountrower** · 19/08/2021, 6:51 PM

Originally Posted by ontheotherhand

You'd swear Bohs weren't 16 points behind Rovers with 6 more goals conceded reading that.

Take a reality check there hun
Bohs have conceded four goals in 6 european games this season ,Rovers have conceded 7 in 5 games.
Please play Lee grace, Joey ( on his arse) O Brien and Pico against us in the cup , parakolo?

**pineapple stu** · 19/08/2021, 6:52 PM

Originally Posted by the 12 th man

You see better defending in the Senior Sunday Division in the Leinster Senior League.

Think it was more the individual errors than anything else that did the damage.

For sure - and so many of the errors were unforced too

Though how much did Rovers really threaten at the other end? Kerr called out the Flora keeper's bad positioning for Scales' goal in analysis after. Could they have tested him more? Mandriou hit the post and of course Burke scored - did they really create much apart from that? Rovers had some good attacking possession but will need to do more with it in Tallaght, as well as defend better.

Elsewhere, Lincoln Red Imps of Gibraltar drew 1-1 away to FC Riga tonight. Great chance of making the groups now, which would be a mental result

**ontheotherhand** · 19/08/2021, 6:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Take a reality check there hun
Bohs have conceded four goals in 6 european games this season ,Rovers have conceded 7 in 5 games.
Please play Lee grace, Joey ( on his arse) O Brien and Pico against us in the cup , parakolo?

Sure thing babycakes - the reality is the league table this and last year and a good but ultimately failed European run won't change that, for you or...... us next week for that matter....

**Dalymountrower** · 19/08/2021, 6:57 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

For sure - and so many of the errors were unforced too

Though how much did Rovers really threaten at the other end? Kerr called out the Flora keeper's bad positioning for Scales' goal in analysis after. Mandriou hit the post and of course Burke scored - did they really test the keeper apart from that? Rovers had some good attacking possession but will need to do more with it in Tallaght, as well as defend better.

Elsewhere, Lincoln Red Imps of Gibraltar drew 1-1 away to FC Riga tonight. Great chance of making the groups now, which would be a mental result

I would be backing Lincoln RI to win, playing in that constant howling gale at the end of a runway will be a distinct advantage

**Philosophizer** · 19/08/2021, 8:45 PM

Originally Posted by Calcio Jack

He should be …. Scales should keep his place better than Kavanagh

I'd take out Hoare and O'Neill. I'd probably move scales to CB and move Pico into DM. O'Neill was positionally all over the shop today. Pico is an interior footballer/passer to O'Neill but there's no way he would have abandoned his post the way O'Neill did today. Terrible performance from him.

**Philosophizer** · 19/08/2021, 8:46 PM

Originally Posted by DCWA

Omonia who Flora only lost out on against on pens as we know could well end up in the EL group stages via a victory over a Belgian side (early yet I know) so are probably a decent outfit.

Omonia beat Antwerp 4-2 as it turns out.

**paul_oshea** · 19/08/2021, 10:06 PM

The more I think about this game the more it reminds me of Ireland going out to Cyprus under Stan, completely toothless and tactical ineptness and inability to see the changes required and being able to make them, creating chances but getting completely overrun in midfield by a poor opposition midfield with huge gaps left all over the middle. It's so bad that Bradley didn't affect change after the first two maybe even 1 as the writing was on the wall early. Perhaps like Stan he just felt like rovers could outscore float. It's a real learning lesson and a big question on his tactical ability.

**sullanefc** · 20/08/2021, 12:08 AM

All the experts declaring Shamrock as favourites on p61 are all captain hindsights on p65. Glorious. Lol.

Sure if they win ye were right and if they lose I can tell them how sh1t they are. It's win win for ye. The usual.

**GUFCghost** · 20/08/2021, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve

Slovan were just rusty/half asleep still from their holidays, is what it looks like now.

And Rovers in prime form because of our summer league, the system works

**ontheotherhand** · 20/08/2021, 1:41 AM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

All the experts declaring Shamrock as favourites on p61 are all captain hindsights on p65. Glorious. Lol.

Sure if they win ye were right and if they lose I can tell them how sh1t they are. It's win win for ye. The usual.

The game don't change sull

**pineapple stu** · 20/08/2021, 6:24 AM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

All the experts declaring Shamrock as favourites on p61 are all captain hindsights on p65. Glorious. Lol.

Sure if they win ye were right and if they lose I can tell them how sh1t they are. It's win win for ye. The usual.

Are you telling me Rovers weren't really, unexpectedly, sh1t last night?

**placid casual** · 20/08/2021, 6:42 AM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

All the experts declaring Shamrock as favourites on p61 are all captain hindsights on p65. Glorious. Lol.

Sure if they win ye were right and if they lose I can tell them how sh1t they are. It's win win for ye. The usual.

A bit of clarity, and from a Cork fan, of all things!! 😉
When are you f***ers gonna get your act together, and get back to the Premier- I miss the X.

**sullanefc** · 20/08/2021, 7:53 AM

Originally Posted by placid casual

A bit of clarity, and from a Cork fan, of all things!! 😉
When are you f***ers gonna get your act together, and get back to the Premier- I miss the X.

Thanks. Our young lads have turned a corner but have left it too late this season. If it were a 36 game season rather than 27 I'd fancy making the playoffs. Hopefully promotion next season and Premier in 2023.

We then target title glory for 2029 to continue the 12 year cycle. 😄

1993, 2005, 2017, 2029. You heard it hear first. 😄