Cork unseeded in the UEFA Cup?

[Poor Student]

The Fair Play places have been allocated.

"But as a result of the draw on the pitch, the two places went to the representative of Denmark, whose season ends on June 19, and German team Mainz."

From a soccernet article.

According to this site great for all the co-efficient and seeding stuff Cork will be unseeded while Longford will not.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...eeduc2005.html

If this is accurate Cork's possible opponents will include:

FSV Mainz 05 Ger
Viking Stavanger Nor
Fair Play Den
FK Ventspils Lat
Metalurgs Liepaja Lat
MyPa-47 Fin
Allianssi Vantaa Fin
Ekranas Panevezys Lit
Atlantas Klaipeda Lit
IBK Keflavik Ice
IBV Vestmannaeyjar Ice

Whereas Longford's potential opponents are:

FC Vaduz Lie
Tallina VMK Est
Flora Tallinn Est
Portadown Nir
Linfield Belfast Nir
Carmarthen Town Wal
Rhyl FC Wal
CS Pétange Lux
Etzella Ettelbrück Lux
B36 Torshavn Far
NSI Runavik Far

[De Town]

Whereas Longford's potential opponents are:

FC Vaduz Lie

Hope we get 1 of the 2 Welsh teams, preferably Rhyl

[Poor Student]

Hope we get 1 of the 2 Welsh teams, preferably Rhyl

From the perspective of a handy away trip it would be good though I'd prefer the Luxembourgers, they really are quite awful. I'm actually surprised the Faroese are ranked worse however I imagine them to be physically strong and a tough place to get to with terrible pitches. For obvious reasons you'd not like to face Linfield or Ports too soon again. They've proved to be tough teams. However as a spectacle and money spinner either tie would be great. Again for obvious reasons you're sick of Vaduz too. They may well be a Swiss top flight team by the draw as well. I wouldn't fancy the Estonians either.

From Cork's perspective I think the Icelanders are the best option. Lithuanians are physically strong and I think Cork are lightweight. I think the Finnish are pretty decent clubs and by the time you move up to the list to the Norweigans and the Danish the opponents are quite tough. Though for all we know the top Danish fair play team is last. I don't know that much about the Latvians so couldn't say much there. Mainz though 11th in the Bundesliga would be a draw you don't want. Not even a big name or draw and they'd be the real short straw to get at that stage being somewhat of an oddity element.

[Poor Student]

Shels potential opponents are:

Sliema Wanderers Mlt
Pyunik Yerevan Arm
SK Tirana Alb
Levadia Tallinn Est
Glentoran Nir
Llansantffraid Wal
F91 Dudelange Lux
CL Azb
HB Torshavn Far
Kairat Almaty Kaz

They'd want the Welsh or Luxembourgers. Armenia, Albania, Azerbijan and Kazakhstan are particular destinations their fans or the club would not want to draw from a travel perspective. Glens could be tough but again a good money spinner. Malta is still far but a nicer place to travel however Sliema are the highest ranked team. For some reason I am just warey of the Faroes. Perhaps a feeling for Wednesday.

[Poor Student]

The preliminary dates for the 1st qualification round for both competitions is Friday the 24th of June. Just under 3 weeks, 19 days. Here are the preliminary dates for the fixtures:

July 12/13, 2005 1st qualifying round Champions League, 1st leg
July 14, 2005 1st qualifying round UEFA Cup, 1st leg
July 20, 2005 1st qualifying round Champions League, 2nd leg
July 28, 2005 1st qualifying round UEFA Cup, 2nd leg

[De Town]

Kairat Almaty Kaz

Theres a fella in my year in school from Almaty in Kazakhstan

[Poor Student]

Theres a fella in my year in school from Almaty in Kazakhstan

He's a long way from home. A journey I wouldn't like an eL club to have to make.

[De Town]

He's a long way from home. A journey I wouldn't like an eL club to have to make.

I know, he flies from Dublin to London, then to Some Russian kip and then onto Kazakhstan!

There is also a fella from Osaka, Japan!

[Poor Student]

I know, he flies from Dublin to London, then to Some Russian kip and then onto Kazakhstan!

There is also a fella from Osaka, Japan!

When I was a primary school kid we thought having someone from Kildare was exotic!

[Poor Student]

By the way I forgot to mention it is a UEFA conspiracry against Cork......"sure like"!

[De Town]

When I was a primary school kid we thought having someone from Kildare was exotic!

[BohsFans]

They wouldn't. the teams are regionalised into sub groups at the start of the draw. How else do you think Irish clubs keep getting, east europe in and around Estonia, Croatia, Belarus. Scotland, in and around Switzerland, Belgium and Lux as well!

[Poor Student]

They wouldn't. the teams are regionalised into sub groups at the start of the draw. How else do you think Irish clubs keep getting, east europe in and around Estonia, Croatia, Belarus. Scotland, in and around Switzerland, Belgium and Lux as well!

They wouldn't what?

If you mean draw a Kazakh side, Shels could as the CL draw is not regionalised.

[Anto McC]

Thanks Poor Student for all the info,you are a fountain of Europen cup footballing Knowledge(spelling ?).

[Poor Student]

Thanks D2. The spelling is correct. I was always a nerd for this co-efficient stuff even before I became an eL fan.

Btw I did actually forget to mention the groups I gave for Cork and Londford is actually the Northern European regional section for the UEFA Cup. Cork are the best unseeded and Longford the worst unseeded in terms of ranking. I can't comfirm this 100% as they are from that site but it is nearly always accurate and updated daily.

[Slash/ED]

I'll probably get stick for this, but in the interest of wanting to see Irish teams do aswell as possible, Longford seeded and Cork unseeded is the wrong way around for us.

[Anto McC]

I'll probably get stick for this, but in the interest of wanting to see Irish teams do aswell as possible, Longford seeded and Cork unseeded is the wrong way around for us.

I agree with you Slash/ED

[De Town]

I'll probably get stick for this, but in the interest of wanting to see Irish teams do aswell as possible, Longford seeded and Cork unseeded is the wrong way around for us.

I understand your point but we aer coming into a bit of form now. If we can keep this up for a while I would fancy us. Im not making excuses for last year, but we just hit the UEFA Cup at the wrong time for us. Nothing was going our way A bit like Shels at the moment

[Dodge]

That Kazakhstani team is the worst draw possible for Shels. Unknown quality, bound to be physically stong, ridiculously expensive to get to, unlikely to draw any nuetrals for the home leg...

Fingers crossed they get them.

[Slash/ED]

Yeah it's by far the worst draw there, you have no idea how strong they are. TNS is the dream draw for me.