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    So Yola FC and Wexford FC are going to repeat the Mervue/Salthill debacle from Galway ten years ago?
    Surely a breakdown of the club's potential support base is a demand of the application?
    oh boy I'm not good at football forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUFCghost View Post
    So Yola FC and Wexford FC are going to repeat the Mervue/Salthill debacle from Galway ten years ago?
    Surely a breakdown of the club's potential support base is a demand of the application?
    I don't think that's the case. I think it's one or the other, it appears like a sideways take over of sorts. I think Yola hope to use Ferrycarrig also. There's talk of well known junior club involvement, imagine it might be North End United, most of their current team are ex-Wexford Youths anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student View Post
    Just adds more dead rubber with no threat of relegation.
    Top 8 into the play-offs will sort that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student View Post
    Just adds more dead rubber with no threat of relegation.
    I've never bought that. Major leagues everywhere do fine with 20-24 teams, the middle half of whom spend the season with little to play for, but we seem to start panicking when it goes over 10.
    Covid-negative, maybe; I haven't checked.

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    Ah, I see. Hopefully this will be a catalyst for sorting out the issues in Wexford football, allowing everyone to get behind one senior club.

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    Maybe and that could be said about a lot of clubs who even if they get promoted have no realistic chance of winning the Premier Division. Are teams not allowed to have ambition, get the chance to give players an opportunity to play at a higher level. Rovers are now in their second stint with two teams in the league. Have any of their young players benefited from the experience. I am sure they have and hopefully we will have more clubs willing to give young players a chance. With the National underage leagues there will hopefully be a greater number of good young players coming through. Lets give them the chance to progress. It would be great to see a Limerick team back in the league as well as a strong Wexford team. In relation to relegation would all the various strands be prepared to sit down and work out a structure that would allow promotion and relegation at all levels. I think Germany have a model that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnsie View Post
    in the unlikely event that there are more than 20 successful licencing applications, who would decide who is let in and how?

    Presumably, whatever about the formalities, an attempt would be made to do it on a consensual basis between the FAI and the clubs. But would that involve all 19 existing clubs, or just the First Divisions ones, or some representative combination?

    Could be a means of re-litigating the argument over Rovers II
    From the League's constitution :

    "15.3 In the event of a tie, entry for new applicants will be decided solely upon the quality of DVDs submitted."

    Or probably its 2020 equivalent- TikTok videos.

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    The Genesis report said we should strive to have 30 clubs spread geographically around the country. At that time we had 22. Now we have 19 and Rovers B. Over the next few years we should really aim to get that up to 20-22-24 and keep adding teams. The LOI has really grown organically over recent years and it would be fantastic if we could ride that growth and get Treaty, Carlow-Kilkenny, Monaghan, Kildare etc. I know these have all failed before but we have to trust this administration to grow the league or we will continue to lose clubs.

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    I thought it was a windup with Yola what does that stand for ? Weird name for a football club.
    Would welcome St Francis back as was in Baldonnel only once in 2000 when we got promoted and they do have a good setup out there. Had actually forgotten about the war in Dublin 8!

    I imagine Treaty Utd have to be strong favourites. Seen article in sun today saying that court case with Limerick v FAI was settled out of court so imagine that coast is clear for them to apply. If the womens team can apply why not the mens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    I thought it was a windup with Yola what does that stand for ? Weird name for a football club.
    Would welcome St Francis back as was in Baldonnel only once in 2000 when we got promoted and they do have a good setup out there. Had actually forgotten about the war in Dublin 8!

    I imagine Treaty Utd have to be strong favourites. Seen article in sun today saying that court case with Limerick v FAI was settled out of court so imagine that coast is clear for them to apply. If the womens team can apply why not the mens?
    Yola was a local language/dialect in South Wexford that died out in the 19th century.

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    Hmm... https://mobile.twitter.com/Live95Lim...07709713199104

    Rest assured I won't be going anywhere near a side that has POS' involvement.

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    St francis clearly want access to the underage set up. With cabo , st josephs (bray) and maybe now st francis in the league it can only be a matter of time before st kevins enter a team in the first division and run their own affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUFCghost View Post
    So Yola FC and Wexford FC are going to repeat the Mervue/Salthill debacle from Galway ten years ago?
    Surely a breakdown of the club's potential support base is a demand of the application?
    Let's face it. There's nowhere that isn't currently in the league that's going to have decent support. These teams be no worse supported than some of the teams already there. Some of the teams in the NI Championship have little support but their league is improving. Good to see St Francis looking to get back in. Until there is a proper pyramid structure this is as good as we're going to get

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    When was the last time a team entered into the league that develped a real fan base (that wasnt a pheonix club....)? For example, Wexford and Cabinteely seem to have no real fans to bring to away games.

    Its a lot harder to develop anyone into a league of Ireland club, ie. an established fan base. Joining senior football is not a short term project, but something that takes 30+ years. A lot of the lubs have been grandfathered into their communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    St francis clearly want access to the underage set up. With cabo , st josephs (bray) and maybe now st francis in the league it can only be a matter of time before st kevins enter a team in the first division and run their own affairs.
    Don't Kevin's already run the whole Bohs underage system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Don't Kevin's already run the whole Bohs underage system?

    yeah but its a marridge of inconvenience , kevins played the first season of the National underage leagues as St kevins before they were forced out and made to sit under Bohs.
    The "bohs" academy play their away matchs in St Kevins orange colours as that was a redline for Kevins at the time.

    Word is they would be as happy to ditch bohs if they could, im surprised they haven't applied this year but i think if Francis get in as joining other schoolboy clubs cabo and St Josephs (Bray) its inevitable they will apply to enter a senior team
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    Further to the other rumour, Carlow/Kilkenny are not applying just yet


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa View Post
    When was the last time a team entered into the league that develped a real fan base (that wasnt a pheonix club....)?
    1984 - Cork City.

    The problem is that there are no shortcuts to developing a support base in football. It takes generations to grow. Cork City were lucky in that they tapped into a relatively large population in a city with a long-tradition of producing well-supported LOI teams - so had a ready-made audience without a team. But apart from Derry City, no-one else has managed anything like that. And nor are they likely to in future without hardcore and very clever marketing support. But even with that - where are the genuinely big population centres without a team ? We're essentially just talking small towns.
    Last edited by EatYerGreens; 11/11/2020 at 12:23 AM.

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    Cork was the ultimate phoenix club in fairness.

    Derry - another phoenix club - joined in 85.

    Bray and Longford also joined in 85 and while they're small, they're a step up from Cabo, Monaghan, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    St francis clearly want access to the underage set up. With cabo , st josephs (bray) and maybe now st francis in the league it can only be a matter of time before st kevins enter a team in the first division and run their own affairs.
    And honestly, that's what should have happened years ago, given the sheer number of players going through their books from a young age.
    That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age

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