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Thread: Wales V Republic of Ireland - Sunday, 15th November 2020 - UEFA Nations League

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    Jack Byrne - i was taught not to do that when i was six! Embarrassing.
    Hendrick and Molumby both out of next game.
    Time for a clear out like Germany did a few years back. Get rid of the older players who arent essential or good enough.

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    Watched the whole game
    The result is not what happened on the pitch.
    1) We were the better side, agreed with the broadcasters, Wales won with very, very little.
    2)Their goal was a FOUL! By Moore.
    3)We had a penalty call at the end. Was a penalty!
    4) The game was Ireland commandinng the match and Wales counter attacking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    England excepted, these aren't even second rate teams we're playing, they're third-rate sides. Teams like Wales, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Finland, and we're failing to lay a glove on them.
    Wales are 20th in the FIFA rankings. 22nd in the elo rankings. Describing them as third rate is utterly ridiculous. They're a much better team than us.
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    I think a few posters are going a tad overboard on the Byrne pass. Plenty of crap PL midfielders have played for Ireland and misplaced many a ball.

    I thought he was bright when he came on and would like to see him get a few more minutes against Bulgaria. Same goes for Knight.

    I’d start Collins. We need a result. He’s not brilliant but he is scoring goals. Did well when he came on.

    Randolph has been getting a lot of stick but his saves stopped us losing 3-0. It should have been 3-0 even though we played ok without threatening that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Hey, we're all entitled to our opinions. I'm not trying to wind anyone up, I'll delete the posts if people feel that strongly about it.
    No-one's asking you to delete any posts or saying you're not entitled to your opinion.

    But when information comes along to prove your opinion wrong, like this -



    - generally you should just acknowledge that you were wrong. It's better all round.

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    The shiite being talked on here is getting worse with every game.

    Jack Byrne was good when he came on, made a stupid pass but I would start him against Bulgaria.

    Id call Parrott up from the 21s and start him, Idah was poor and Collins not the answer.

    Hourihane will start on Wednesday but I have to say I nearly threw something at the tv when I seen him coming on tonight when we were chasing the game. He adds nothing, and we were screaming out for Byrne with half hour to go. It was the 1st time I seriously questioned Kennys judgement.

    We cant continue to play out from the back with Randolph and Duffy, Duffy is killing us with ball at his feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    Wales are 20th in the FIFA rankings. 22nd in the elo rankings. Describing them as third rate is utterly ridiculous. They're a much better team than us.
    They are, but we're in the same Nations League group. Let's not pretend they aren't of a roughly similar standing to ourselves. And yet they could easily have won 3-0.

    We should at least be making it difficult for them.

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    We will never score, and chances are we will conceed most games, if we keep playing this passing game which we don't have the players for.

    We need to get a seasoned manager in who knows what he is doing and can grind out tight results. We need someone who can drill a defence, Kenny can't do that, look how sloppy the Wales goal was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    I think you're just being funny, but for the record, Spartacus' rebellion was in the south of Italy, near Mount Vesuvius. Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with his legions to spark a later civil war. We don't quite know where it was, but it was a northern border, so I don't think Spartacus ever got near it.
    I should have checked but I knew some one made a bad mistake crossing the Rubicon ~ ~ Jack Byrne should never have made that pass but he did set up Collins with a reasonable chance = A Curate's Egg = Good in Parts !

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    If Odubeko breaks into the West Ham team over the next few months, as many are expecting him to do, then surely we should try to entice him with the offer of a senior cap instead of persisting with the likes of Idah, who is not ready yet, or Collins, who will never be ready.

    This current team under Kenny looks clueless in the final third and very low on confidence. If anyone thinks one decent forward will solve all his issues then they don't know football. If only it was that simple.

    Worst start to an Irish manager's career in the past half century, even Stan had a few decent results by this stage of his reign.
    Last edited by youngirish; 15/11/2020 at 6:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    They are, but we're in the same Nations League group. Let's not pretend they aren't of a roughly similar standing to ourselves. And yet they could easily have won 3-0.

    We should at least be making it difficult for them.
    The Nations League just means we're in the same quartile as them. That's a wide enough range. Certainly wide enough that they don't have to be a "roughly similar standing"

    They're better than us. And I'll see your "they could easily have won 3-0" and raise you "we should have had a penalty at the end"

    In the end, we got a draw and a 1-0 defeat off them, which is respectable given that, and I don't know if anyone has noticed this before, we have no forwards worth the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Hey, we're all entitled to our opinions. I'm not trying to wind anyone up, I'll delete the posts if people feel that strongly about it.
    You have crossed the Rubicon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo View Post
    We will never score, and chances are we will conceed most games, if we keep playing this passing game which we don't have the players for.

    We need to get a seasoned manager in who knows what he is doing and can grind out tight results. We need someone who can drill a defence, Kenny can't do that, look how sloppy the Wales goal was.
    get outta that garden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Yeah, sorry, not trying to clog the thread with negativity, I'm just very frustrated that a player with such poor passing judgement was allowed to play for us. I suppose we don't have a whole lot of other options. I honestly think that was one of, if not the, single biggest mistakes I've ever seen at international level.

    yeah to be fair ive never seen hourihane or hendricks or indeed any irish player in the last few games play a bad pass. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovial Rambler View Post
    Jack Byrne - i was taught not to do that when i was six! Embarrassing.
    And remind us all on here what level of football you got to play to yourself?
    Mistakes can happen - if anything his underhit pass now forces Kenny to try someone else in midfield instead of the lank-haired, pointless Hendrick.
    No meaningful striker up front means no-one to stick it into the onion bag when needed - it's fairly rudimentary when you look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    If Odubeko breaks into the West Ham team over the next few months, as many are expecting him to do, then surely we should try to entice him with the offer of a senior cap instead of persisting with the likes of Idah, who is not ready yet, or Collins, who will never be ready.

    This current team under Kenny looks clueless in the final third and very low on confidence. If anyone thinks one decent forward will solve all his issues then they don't know football. If only it was that simple.

    Worst start to an Irish manager's career in the past half century, even Stan had a few decent results by this stage of his reign.
    Ah here odubeko has hardly played a few 23s games yet I wouldn't be holding my breath for him to see games with west ham this season. I'd go as far as to say it definitely wont happen. Idah is 19 this is excellent experience pick him Tuesday collins is certainly not the future and parrott should be allowed go back to millwall and get fit to get a run in their team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    The shiite being talked on here is getting worse with every game.

    Jack Byrne was good when he came on, made a stupid pass but I would start him against Bulgaria.

    Id call Parrott up from the 21s and start him, Idah was poor and Collins not the answer.

    Hourihane will start on Wednesday but I have to say I nearly threw something at the tv when I seen him coming on tonight when we were chasing the game. He adds nothing, and we were screaming out for Byrne with half hour to go. It was the 1st time I seriously questioned Kennys judgement.

    We cant continue to play out from the back with Randolph and Duffy, Duffy is killing us with ball at his feet
    Great post, think parrott should be let go back to millwall to get fit

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    I think these games under kenny has highlighted a - to me at least- fascinating divide between the footballing supporting public. Those who think that playing it the "right way" is the only way to do it, whatever about the results, and those who look at the result first and the performance second. I never really realised that there is a significant section of the fanbase that doesn't really mind losing games.

    Obviously every single fan would like to have both nice play and results.

    I will just say - as a few of the players have done - that this idea of having to 'learn a new system' is rubbish. All the players have played under different managers with different systems throughout their careers, it's not like they're having to suddenly learn to pass the ball after 15+ years of being players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    And remind us all on here what level of football you got to play to yourself?
    Mistakes can happen - if anything his underhit pass now forces Kenny to try someone else in midfield instead of the lank-haired, pointless Hendrick.
    No meaningful striker up front means no-one to stick it into the onion bag when needed - it's fairly rudimentary when you look at it.
    Same level as Mourinho.
    Do we need to have played Intl level before we can comment?
    He made a dreadful pass. If u think otherwise please give us your view.

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    Does anyone have a link for the "pass" sending off please

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