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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    And, while it was hopefully nothing to do with him, they managed to concede a late equaliser to - of all teams - Southampton while he was on the field.
    He was the first player passed on the run into the goal. I don't blame him, but he looked like he couldn't be bothered while he was on

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    https://www.footballinsider247.com/d...er-at-everton/

    Pete O'Rourke tends to be one of the more respectable transfer reporters out there.

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    Brighton's win last night means they are in pole position to qualify for Conference league next year if Chelsea do the expected and win it out this year. Ferguson could be kept around for squad depth in that case.

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    For some reason Chelsea also have to finish exactly 7th in the league for 8th to get the European spot. I have no idea why they have to finish 7th specifically, but apparently they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    For some reason Chelsea also have to finish exactly 7th in the league for 8th to get the European spot. I have no idea why they have to finish 7th specifically, but apparently they do.
    It's getting more and more like the Eurovision Song Contest every year ~ ~ How many English teams get in to Europe now ? ( one way or another )

    Mind you for all sorts of political reasons, the Uk can't win the, Eurovision Song Contest ~ ~ Europe seems to be happy enough to have a rake of English teams in European competitions ~ ~ The English teams must be good money-spinners all the same !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    For some reason Chelsea also have to finish exactly 7th in the league for 8th to get the European spot. I have no idea why they have to finish 7th specifically, but apparently they do.
    Premier League has to have one team in the tournament. With Palace winning the cup, they take the Europa league slot and Conference moves from 8th (if city had won) to 7th. If Forest or whoever finish 7th, they get the place. However if Chelsea come 7th - they qualify. But if they also win the tournament, they also qualify for the Europa league which is a higher tournament, this means England wouldn’t have a representative in the conference league, so the 8th team gets it instead.

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    Not on the West Ham bench today as a sorry loan spell comes to an end.

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    Something really stinks about this whole loan deal. I don't think anyone could argue that he was given a chance to make an impact. I read that Brighton are fuming about it and West Ham are unlikely to get any loan deals from them again anytime soon. Which is a bit cracked considering they have one of the best academies in the UK.

    Really hope he gets a decent move somewhere that he's valued during the summer. And that he treats pre-season with all the priority that it needs.

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    I have to say, based on what I've seen of him this season, I wouldn't have picked him any more often than West Ham did. He has looked well off his best when he has played, including for Ireland - despite the goal against Bulgaria.

    West Ham clearly signed him to cover a short term injury situation, once the situation was over he was surplus to requirements. Unless he made a big early impression that was always how it was likely to be. If Brighton didn't want that, they shouldn't have loaned him there.

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    https://www.instagram.com/p/DLZjZatN...RlODBiNWFlZA==

    This is bit more of what you want to see. Evan and Jake O'Brien working together with a personal trainer before preseason starts
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Joao Pedro is off to Chelsea for £50m, so Ferguson’s very much returning to a different dynamic at Brighton now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Joao Pedro is off to Chelsea for £50m, so Ferguson’s very much returning to a different dynamic at Brighton now.
    It was always a probability that Pedro would leave.

    The big question is whether Hurzeler will utilise Ferguson properly - or whether he will prioritise the 18 year-old kid they bought from Greece for £35m

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    It was always a probability that Pedro would leave.

    The big question is whether Hurzeler will utilise Ferguson properly - or whether he will prioritise the 18 year-old kid they bought from Greece for £35m
    It’s up to Ferguson to make the manager utilise him properly now. No excuses.

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    Yeah, this idea that Ferguson's problems of the last 18 months have been because managers haven't used him properly is just nonsense

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    There’s also a 50/50 chance that Brighton sign another striker, a more experienced one to replace Joao Pedro.

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    Hes still just 20, most our lads barely get near a 1st team by this age. We've been giving 26 year old Kelleher years to go and establish himself. Troy was farting around different lower league clubs at this age before it eventually clicked, when it looked at 1 point that it might not.... so the right situation/manager does matter.

    All that being said it still feels like a huge season if he is to go on to be the world class striker I still think he can be
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Yeah, this idea that Ferguson's problems of the last 18 months have been because managers haven't used him properly is just nonsense
    Ferguson was developing well under RDZ - he played 36 times for Brighton in 23/24 (PL and cup games) before missing the last 10 games with injury (an injury that ruled him out for the first few games of last season).


    Hurzeler brought a different formation into the team - and clearly prioritised Pedro, Rutter and Welbeck ahead of Ferguson.


    Now Ferguson's development has been derailed a bit - partly because of injuries, partly because of the new manager and partly because of what was a poor decision to go on loan to West Ham. But none of this takes away from how good this kid is.

    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    There’s also a 50/50 chance that Brighton sign another striker, a more experienced one to replace Joao Pedro.
    That is a possibility - but good strikers are not easy to find - particularly ones with experience who are good enough for the PL.

    I still think that Bloom is not convinced with Hurzeler and I suspect that he isn't going to splash more money on a striker especially after spending £35m on Kostoulas (a 18 year old kid who has played 22 games in the Greek SL). Bloom will want to know where Ferguson fits into things going forward - you don't just discard a player of his ability - good strikers are hard to come by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    so the right situation/manager does matter.
    It can matter, sure - but I don't think it's the go-to situation whenever things go badly for one of our players.

    He had a really bad loan move at West Ham too, and hasn't been great in his last few Ireland caps either (got a lot of stick on the Luxembourg and Bulgaria match threads here for example), so it's not just one manager mis-using him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    It can matter, sure - but I don't think it's the go-to situation whenever things go badly for one of our players.

    He had a really bad loan move at West Ham too, and hasn't been great in his last few Ireland caps either (got a lot of stick on the Luxembourg and Bulgaria match threads here for example), so it's not just one manager mis-using him.
    I think that people tend to be more critical of him because of the expectations. Ireland has had some really good strikers over the decades - but Ferguson has the ability and potential to be up there with the best of them (if not be the best).

    Now - that does not mean that he doesn't need some sort of a reboot. The recent work with O'Brien is a positive - for both (and I think O'Brien could potentially be a top PL defender). If Hurzeler gets consolidated at Brighton and still refuses to use him properly then a move is the best thing for Ferguson - if Hurzeler does make changes to utilise Ferguson effectively, or gets sacked, then Ferguson could continue to develop at Brighton.

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    Theres no doubt that Ferguson has to take personal responsibility for how things have gone in the last year or so, but that doesnt negate that other factors would also have a big influence. I like that we are seeing him working out before going back to preseason, he has to hit the ground running and hopefully his injuries are behind him. I do think the injury was a huge factor in why things went a bit pear shaped and the West Ham move was nothing but a disaster, so lets see.

    Ekitike is a good example of how a reset can do wonders for a young player. He bombed out of PSG after getting a big move there, he had some mental health issues but he moved to Frankfurt and thrived. Now at 23 hes being liked with a move to all the big clubs again and Frankfurt want a 100 Million quid fee. Hes 3 years older than Ferguson and yet hes considered a young player with huge potential still.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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